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Thanks to all for reminding me why posting on the forum is often a waste of time.

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@sjclaeys 192848 wrote:

I’d ride through the intersection as it is now before further judging the situation. While not 100% ideal, it really is not that bad and pales in comparison to other more dangerous infrastructure in Arlington County.

Having now gone through the intersection both directions several times, I really do not think that pole is much of a problem given its position. Just pay attention and slow down.

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@Steve O 192832 wrote:

Admittedly, I have not tried it since they opened it up

I’d ride through the intersection as it is now before further judging the situation. While not 100% ideal, it really is not that bad and pales in comparison to other more dangerous infrastructure in Arlington County.

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@mrhappy_onabike 192572 wrote:

If the goody-goody Steve and the evil Steve O are on the same team, do they cancel each other out?

For such a good cause, I am sure that we can work it out.

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@bentbike33 192566 wrote:

Really?!? Without natural gas or electricity?

Umm, beer has been brewed long before gas and electricity.

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So any update on when the flood damage repair work will begin, such as the W&OD Wilson Blvd underpass?

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@Emm 192559 wrote:

I may need to drop out, so you could perhaps take my slot on team renegade with Reji and Steve O if you’re interested…

Guess it depends on if they will have me!

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A bit late in posting this, but I am registered and would be happy to join a team. Remember that I know how to safely make alcohol, which will be very valuable in a post-apocalyptic Arlington.

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@lordofthemark 192184 wrote:

SteveC can certainly speak for himself, but I think he was trying to counter the argument that “ebikers are reluctant adopters of biking, more likely to be parents with kids along, etc, hence will be MORE law abiding and polite than existing (acoustic) riders”

Leaving aside the issue of the size of the n, someone who has to ride across the IOD as it currently exists is arguably not the most cautious person to begin with, regardless of what kind of bike they ride. Better infra is still a more likely way to bring out the cautious would be riders than ebikes are.

Yes, my point is that there is little/no basis to expect e-bike riders to behave any differently from analog/acoustic bike riders. In fact, it may be more likely that both sets of riders overall generally behave more similarly to how they drive a vehicle. I do not dispute the size of the n in my observation, but low n size has not stopped many on the forum from using personal observations as the basis for making public safety policy.

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@dasgeh 192138 wrote:

A study on the W&OD showed that ebikes on the trail had lower average speeds than pedal bikes.

So looking at the study, this statement can appear to be a bit misleading. Although the study was done for NVRPA to inform policy for e-bikes on the W&OD, the findings of the study, including regarding speed, are not based on behavior on the W&OD. It just cites a study that found that e-bikes were observed to go faster on roads than analog bikes and slower on a MUP than analog bikes. I’d also note that the cited study also found nearly identical safety behavior between e-bikes and analog bikes. This would dispel the notion that e-bike riders can somehow be expected to be more careful than the rest of us “crazies”. Also, in case anyone wishes to respond with their own non-scientific observations, I’ll put it out there that last evening at the intersection of Lynn and Lee Highway (aka the IOD), I observed a mom on a cargo e-bike with a young child in a back seat cross Lynn against the red light.

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@musclys 192144 wrote:

I like this. You should start a blog and do ride reports. You would have at least three readers (me, sjclaeys, and old_swole_soul).

Come for the whine, stay for the post-ride beer.

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The C&O towpath from Chain Bridge to Georgetown is in good shape with nice puddles if you want.

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The Dale’s Pale Ale just finishes it all off.

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@rcannon100 191919 wrote:

The interesection is about to be a pedestrian path for a brand new school – the school formerly known as HBW. Seems like a good reason to improve pedestrian crossings and kill right turns on red.

Sure, another improvement after the HBW program leaves. If the intersection was good enough for the HBW middle and high schoolers, then its good enough for the snow flakes that will be attending the new middle school. (Note, this is sarcastic. I fully support efforts to improve the safety of school children.)

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@Subby 191815 wrote:

I can think of a few improvements including taking out that right turn lane at Old Dominion and Lorcom.

I understand how that right turn lane affects you coming up Lee Highway/Old Dominion toward Lorcom, but whoo boy getting rid of that lane will get the pitchforks out. Not saying it shouldn’t be done, but be ready for some WWE cage-style fighting.

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