Report your MVT wooden-bridge accident here. Date, location, circumstances.
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November 8, 2017 at 10:53 pm #1077895sjclaeysParticipant
@PeteD 167790 wrote:
This morning, Trollheim claimed my ultegra shifters. Wet wood + wet leaves + avoiding oncoming oblivious pedestrian = recipe for not-fun. Happened on the little S jog just after the drainage ditch heading southbound.
Landed on my semi-metallic hip, so that question has been answered, though it did leave a nice welt the size of an half an orange.
And I got through it last night in the pouring rain without an issue.
Sorry to hear this but two things: 1) you’ve said elsewhere that the welt is the size of a kiwi, so which type of fruit is it?; and 2) if you went to HDCC, this would not have happened, just sayin’.
November 9, 2017 at 12:16 am #1077899rcannon100Participant@PeteD 167790 wrote:
avoiding oncoming oblivious pedestrian
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November 11, 2017 at 11:30 am #1078000Raymo853Participant@baiskeli 147331 wrote:
so why don’t they just put some grit paint down? Easy, cheap and effective, and a great boon to safety.
Knowing NPS, it might take a 5 years after deciding to do this to get it o the schedule. And deciding might take another 5.
Maybe a little pirate sand painting is justified?
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June 20, 2018 at 1:17 am #1088015zsionakidesParticipantWatched a guy wipe out on the Trollheim on my commute home. I was coming down the hill from the TR bridge. He passed me going pretty fast and then low sided out as soon as he hit the wooden part. If I had to guess he was going 18-20 mph. He got up quickly and said he was alright. He was definitely going too fast for the wet conditions, but that’s not always well known.
September 11, 2018 at 12:34 am #1089593DeweyParticipantToday, 5:35pm wooden trail section coming down off Roosevelt bridge slow speed probably not more than 10mph, I skidded on the slippery wood surface and fell, a cyclist following had to emergency stop and fell behind me, sorry and thank you for asking how I was afterwards. I did the splits so I have some muscle pain in my thighs and bruises on my left knee and right elbow.
[video]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jHTC3pKvMCa-4M6Nz2YBQZNf3nYgD4Qs[/video]September 11, 2018 at 1:30 am #1089596JuddParticipant@Dewey 180895 wrote:
Today, 5:35pm wooden trail section coming down off Roosevelt bridge slow speed probably not more than 10mph, I skidded on the slippery wood surface and fell, a cyclist following had to emergency stop and fell behind me, sorry and thank you for asking how I was afterwards. I did the splits so I have some muscle pain in my thighs and bruises on my left knee and right elbow.
[video]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jHTC3pKvMCa-4M6Nz2YBQZNf3nYgD4Qs[/video]Dang. Sorry about your crash and I hope you recover quickly. The National Parks Service is doing a trail safety study with Volpe currently and at the last Stakeholder meeting on Saturday the group recommended that Volpe do a site visit to Trollheim since it takes so many people down even in situations where people are going slow and not turning.
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September 11, 2018 at 2:00 am #1089597semperidenParticipantI hope that the muscle pain goes away soon. I fell there last year and hurt my shoulder going like 5 miles an hour. You are likely to wipeout if you break or twist your wheel all of the sudden. I thought the pain was going to go away soon, but it took more than a month to heal, so best wishes.
I have witnessed 3 people wipeout over there this year, so I am sure there’s tons of people getting hurt there all the time.
September 11, 2018 at 2:52 pm #1089607Steve OParticipant@semperiden 180900 wrote:
I have witnessed 3 people wipeout over there this year, so I am sure there’s tons of people getting hurt there all the time.
I have not done a statistically valid poll, but I have asked in various meetings. Off the top of my head I would guess more than 1/2 of the people I know who ride the Trollheim regularly have wiped out at least once. (I have.)
Imagine if 50% of drivers who used the GWMP crashed at a particular location along the parkway. Think they would take action?
September 11, 2018 at 3:19 pm #1089608DeweyParticipantBroke my leg, need an mri to confirm if I need surgery, and keep off the bike for 6 weeks. Looked on X-ray like when you hit the fender of your car and it makes a divot, so they may need to go into the top of my tibia to push the divot back out.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]18353[/ATTACH]The Chariot hitch on the left rear axle chewed up the surface of Trollheim, apologies for the splinters.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]18355[/ATTACH]September 11, 2018 at 3:20 pm #1089609PeteDParticipantBob has a story he tells about racing Cyclocross and an entire field crashing… You’ll have to ask him about it.
Needless to say guy on the left started accellerating just past the hump on the TR Bridge while I started saying out loud “Don’t wipe out on the bridge. Don’t wipe out on the bridge…”
It seems Dewey was still on the ground and had locked his brakes up due to the Cabi riders that had come to a full stop in the trail, confused about directions, and guy on the left then slid into Dewey…
After said photo, I stayed to ensure that Dewey was cogent — eye contact at least, asked if he was hurt or needed any help. Did not know that was you Dewey…
Passed guy on the left by TRI asked if he needed any wrenches or anything.
Trollheim+2.
September 11, 2018 at 4:21 pm #1089613DeweyParticipantThanks for asking how I was Pete
September 11, 2018 at 4:59 pm #1089614DrPParticipant@Steve O 180911 wrote:
Imagine if 50% of drivers who used the GWMP crashed at a particular location along the parkway. Think they would take action?
Well, while clearly not 50% of the cars, they have not modified the area of the GWMP between boundary channel and Trollheim. It seems that about every three months there are tire tracks scraping up grass going down the hill from the GWMP to the trail and across it (and sometimes the whole car). So, my guess is that no, they will not always fix something, even for cars. If people regularly died due to such accidents, they might. I would prefer they fix such an area with lots of accidents before someone dies. (and that goes both for Trollheim and this region of the trail just south of it. I fear that one day such a car will take out someone on the trail).
September 11, 2018 at 8:52 pm #1089622PeteDParticipant@Dewey 180918 wrote:
Thanks for asking how I was Pete
Sorry for your misfortune Dewey. I truly detest Trollheim. There are folks here that have noted my ability to go out of my way to avoid it, especially on days like yesterday.
September 11, 2018 at 10:12 pm #1089623OneEighthParticipantNuke and pave.
But seriously, not sure the bridge surfaces need to be permeable, let alone wood. Seems like more of an NPS affectation than something based on actual practical needs.September 12, 2018 at 12:28 pm #1089628huskerdontParticipant@DrP 180919 wrote:
Well, while clearly not 50% of the cars, they have not modified the area of the GWMP between boundary channel and Trollheim. It seems that about every three months there are tire tracks scraping up grass going down the hill from the GWMP to the trail and across it (and sometimes the whole car). So, my guess is that no, they will not always fix something, even for cars. If people regularly died due to such accidents, they might. I would prefer they fix such an area with lots of accidents before someone dies. (and that goes both for Trollheim and this region of the trail just south of it. I fear that one day such a car will take out someone on the trail).
I’m always aware of the tendency for drivers to lose it and go off the parkway when I ride just south of Trollheim, so I ride quickly and am ready to take (probably ineffective) evasive action. I think a guardrail would be a good idea here. But regarding the road design there, I don’t think the road itself is the problem. Roads will always have curves. The problem is that people fly through there at well over the designed speed, even in wet weather.
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