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  • #909599
    Dirt
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    This may be a bit basic for folks, but I see tons of people getting it wrong, so I thought I’d write this up.

    Layers are the key to keeping warm and dry. When we talk about layers, quality and type are MUCH more important than quantity of layers. More clothes is never the right answer unless you’re wearing the right KIND of clothes.

    There are three kinds of layers: wicking, loft (insulation) and wind breaking.

    Wicking layers transfer moisture away from your skin. They’re responsible for keeping you dry. They offer a bit of insulation too, but that is not their primary purpose. These are the first layers that you put on.

    They can be as simple as an inexpensive base layer or synthetic long-underwear or as complex as high tech base layer where different zones of your body are covered with different thicknesses and textures of fabric to maximize warmth and moisture transfer. Wicking layers can be as cheap as a $8 technical t-shirt from Walmart or as expensive as $150 base layer.

    Wicking layers can be used anywhere on your body. They exist for gloves, shirts, tights, socks and even hats.

    For my core, I’ve had very good luck with inexpensive base layers made by a company called Verge. They can be found for as little as $12 for sleeveless tops. Like anything synthetic, they tend to trap odors after a while. At $12 each, it doesn’t hurt to recycle them after a year.

    My favorite for this time of year are made of merino wool. They’re soft, warm and have a very wide temperature range. They cost $40-80 each and are made by a variety of manufacturers.

    Loft layers provide insulation. They create dead air space between your outer layers and wicking layers. Moisture must transmit through, but their primary source is to hold your body heat in. Winter jerseys often have a little fleece on the inside to provide loft. Microfleece can work well for this. Some jackets (soft shells) have fleece in them too to add loft.

    Wind Breaking layers are meant to keep wind and wet out while allowing perspiration to leave. Seems simple, eh? It isn’t. If they don’t breathe well enough, it is very easy to overheat, sweat and soak yourself… thus causing a serious danger of freezing. Most simply, vents are holes in high temp areas under your arms or on your back to let sweat and some heat out. More complex venting can be done using fancy laminated fabrics that keep moisture out, but let your skin breathe. Gore-Tex is the one that comes to mind most readily, but there are many other fabrics on the market that do this. The best jackets, vests, pants, gloves use a combination of high tech fabrics and simple venting to balance keeping warmth in and getting/keeping moisture out.

    Wind breaking layers can be as inexpensive as a simple nylon windbreaker or can cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Same with tights, pants and gloves.

    You’ll notice I have been talking most about keeping my core (torso) warm. While the layers really apply to most places on the body, the key part that I concentrate on is keeping my core at the right temperature.

    Combination Layers: There are wicking layers that have loft. There are insulating layers with wind/water breaking panels. There are wicking layers with wind breaking layers. I use them from time to time… particularly wind breaking layers with a bit of loft.

    The Tricky Part: What to wear when?

    This is personal preference. I know you hate that answer. We’re all different in the way we ride, the amount of heat we give off and how quickly we chill. Personally I sweat more than normal humans. Venting is critical. Most of my jackets/vests/tights for cold weather have a mesh back to let the excess heat out. The wind protection on the front holds enough warmth to keep me from freezing and all that venting in the back keeps me from boiling.

    My friend Barbara FREAKS when I talk like that because she’s very different. She needs more insulation everywhere because she neither generates heat like I do, nor does she retain it like I do. (That’s NOT a social statement by any means. ) ;) I guess it is physiological. In my 35+ years of winter riding, I’ve known women and men that are at both extremes of the heat generation/retention continuum.

    On the 40 degree mornings we’ve had lately, I’ve been wearing summer cycling shorts, knee warmers with a wind protective patch over the fronts of my knees, a pair of baggy mountain bike knickers over the top to keep wind out. Up top I’ll wear a light base layer with a winter jersey for loft and a wind-front vest to keep my core warm. Below 40 and I’ll go to a long sleeve jacket… still mesh backed.

    All of us are going to be different in the combinations that we use. I stated that above as an example.

    I promised that this would be brief and to the point. I’ve obviously wandered.

    Next topic: Specific layers that I’ve used that work well for me.

    What works for you?

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  • #934186
    americancyclo
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    @dbb 12594 wrote:

    … and the firm that produces them.

    hahah. from the website:

    Hand made by 3 sets of hands in our store for over 8 years.

    #954743
    ShawnoftheDread
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    @Dirt 12474 wrote:

    Found a great riding product for cool winter rides. Doesn’t work so well when it is really cold, but it worked great for my ride today in temps ranging between 40 and 55 degrees.

    http://youtu.be/XbRSRL8V31s

    This might be the sweatiest film since Barton Fink.

    #954749
    Dirt
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    @ShawnoftheDread 34964 wrote:

    This might be the sweatiest film since Barton Fink.

    Hahaha. I still haven’t published the sequel yet…. staring our own americancyclo.

    My huge problem is how the hell do I top that on our January 1, 2013 ride???? I’m stumped.

    #982389
    Dirt
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    It is getting to be Layers 101 time of year again. Might be a good opportunity to bump this thread for some fall reading.

    #982390
    ShawnoftheDread
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    I just got some Icebreaker 100% merino thermals. I can’t wait till it’s cold enough to try them out.

    #982393
    Dirt
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    @ShawnoftheDread 65348 wrote:

    I just got some Icebreaker 100% merino thermals. I can’t wait till it’s cold enough to try them out.

    I just picked up two sets of Giro New Road Merino base layer.

    #982395
    jrenaut
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    @Dirt 65351 wrote:

    I just picked up two sets of Giro New Road Merino base layer.

    Let us know how you like them. That’s a really nice looking line of clothes, but they seemed a bit pricey.

    #982398
    Dirt
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    @jrenaut 65353 wrote:

    Let us know how you like them. That’s a really nice looking line of clothes, but they seemed a bit pricey.

    I’m picking up more stuff this week. I’m doing some product testing so that I can talk to it more.

    One of the reasons the clothes are more pricey is that it is all made in the US. I have heard lots of people over the years complain about the lack of US-made cycling clothing. It is interesting and kind-of cool that Giro has responded. The quality is amazing. The styles are pretty neat!

    The Merino base layer is flawless. It is better than the Hincapie that I purchased two years ago and on-par with the Ibex that I purchased last year. We’ve got the sleeveless and short sleeve versions in stock.

    #982399
    jrenaut
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    I’m okay spending a bit more on something well made, and something made in the US.

    #982400
    Bilsko
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    Layer-related: gloves.

    The Assos Factory outlet has their glove system for sale for $137. NOT CHEAP, and the % discount isn’t great either, but its worth considering. 3 pairs, from light (liner style), to med, to mitt.

    Tempting, as I do need to find a good option for this winter.

    Mavic’s semi-cold weather gloves are on sale at Competitive, i think. Not sure if they have a layer option

    #982402
    TwoWheelsDC
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    My next purchase is winter shoes… Looking specifically at the Sidi Diablo, which is not only warm, but waterproof (according to the reviews). Shoe covers are a sub-optimal solution for daily riding… At least for me.

    #982405
    hozn
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    I picked up some Northwave Celsius boots a couple years ago on GearTrade. They work well and claim to be waterproof, but the low profile of the boot is inferior to shoe covers when it is actually raining. (My Gore rain pants are not exceptionally long.) The shoes aren’t also much warmer (if any) than good covers. And of course the commute home is often much warmer than the commute in, so there aren’t that many weeks when it’s comfortable to wear boots both ways. So I didn’t use to think boots made that much sense, but I wore them a lot last winter thanks to freezing saddles, so I am happy to have them.

    #982407
    vvill
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    @Bilsko 65359 wrote:

    Layer-related: gloves.

    I just wear Large sized gloves over Mediums, and I also have Moose Mitts. That said, my hands can still get cold (and feet too). I hope to solve the extremities dilemma this winter.

    #982409
    Amalitza
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    @hozn 65364 wrote:

    They work well and claim to be waterproof.

    I also have the northwave celsius boots and while I have limited shoe cover experience so can’t much compare, I did find the boots to be reasonably warm and fully waterproof– even in heavy rains when some of my other waterproof clothing wasn’t so much. My only real problem is that I could probably use a half size bigger on the coldest days to accommodate thicker socks and as nearly as I can tell, they don’t make half sizes in my size range. But the fact that they make *any* sizes in my size range– and enough of them that I could find some– is a point (if a grudgingly made one) in their favor (though likely not one that twowheels cares much about unless he is shopping for his wife).

    ‘course, I am on the short-limbed side of things so “My Gore rain pants are not exceptionally long” is not really an issue for me…

    #982410
    Dirt
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    @jrenaut 65358 wrote:

    I’m okay spending a bit more on something well made, and something made in the US.

    Not to senselessly plug my employer, but I think Freshbikes Mosaic is the only place in town that carries much of the stuff. We’ve got most of the entire line. We don’t have the wind shirt and a couple of the crews.

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