e-Bikes – Let’s talk

[Dewey]

@bentbike33 178497 wrote:

You may be the rare exception on rule 9, but no one riding an ebike can be obeying rule 5 by definition (unless the battery is entirely dead or disconnected rendering it temporarily not an ebike).

Utter bilge, pish, tosh, nonsense, splutter etc. Evidence. You’ll be telling me next riding an ebike involves no biomechnical effort or count as active transportation.

[bentbike33]

@Dewey 178498 wrote:

Utter bilge, pish, tosh, nonsense, splutter etc. Evidence. You’ll be telling me next riding an ebike involves no biomechnical effort or count as active transportation.

Rule 5 is a very high standard. I am in violation on 2 counts: having a triple crank, and a large cog > 23T.

[dasgeh]

@Sunyata 178483 wrote:

Hmm. Now that you mention it, I am not sure I saw a single e-bike last week. I did see the normal amount of them yesterday and this morning though.

I have also noticed that since I moved and my commute is pretty much just on the Custis, the e-bikes I encounter are MUCH more courteous than the ones I would see on the W&OD or MVT. I wonder why that is…

I rode, and saw about the same proportion of ebikes as usual. On Sunday I saw a nice collection of ebikes, all set up to carry kids. The owners had gathered to let others try them out, so that more families can bike more.

But, you know, carry on with your sarcasm.

[huskerdont]

I’m sure there must be merits to them, at least for some people, but there’s no way using an ebike has anything to do with HTFUing.

[mstone]

I saw at least one jump bike on the DCBR, not in flames.

[huskerdont]

Now, these flames of which ye speak, they are an asset, correct? Because I would totes film one of those moving down the trail in the dark.

[Dewey]

@huskerdont 178521 wrote:

Now, these flames of which ye speak, they are an asset, correct? Because I would totes film one of those moving down the trail in the dark.

You may scoff but an advantage of an ebike battery and usb port in the display is you can plug in Christmas lights, run a longer lasting standlight, and front and rear lights running off the battery, on my DIY lash up I use rechargeable battery lights and in winter I’m charging them every 3 days so one far off day when I have the money to buy a pre-built ebike with such a feature it would be a helpful upgrade. I like the German pedelec ebike lights Peter White sells but most of the lower power 6v ones I would want require wiring in some sort of step down power converter and I am wary of touching the solder job I did on the battery connectors, plus I don’t know the way to Tosche station.

[huskerdont]

@Dewey 178522 wrote:

You may scoff but an advantage of an ebike battery and usb port in the display is you can plug in Christmas lights, run a longer lasting standlight, and front and rear lights running off the battery, on my DIY lash up I use rechargeable battery lights and in winter I’m charging them every 3 days so one far off day when I have the money to buy a pre-built ebike with such a feature it would be a helpful upgrade. I like the German pedelec ebike lights Peter White sells but most of the lower power 6v ones I would want require wiring in some sort of step down power converter and I am wary of touching the solder job I did on the battery connectors, plus I don’t know the way to Tosche station.

Hey, I’m all for colorful lights on bikes. That post, as least, wasn’t scoffage.

[lordofthemark]

@huskerdont 178519 wrote:

I’m sure there must be merits to them, at least for some people, but there’s no way using an ebike has anything to do with HTFUing.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1435947038

[Sunyata]

@dasgeh 178518 wrote:

I rode, and saw about the same proportion of ebikes as usual. On Sunday I saw a nice collection of ebikes, all set up to carry kids. The owners had gathered to let others try them out, so that more families can bike more.

But, you know, carry on with your sarcasm.

I was not being sarcastic at all. And I am honestly not sure why you thought I was being sarcastic or why you were offended by what I said. I am not against e-bikes at all on paved/gravel multi-use trails, so long as they (like everyone should be) are courteous and safe. I just made an observation that during the rainy week last week, I was not sure I saw an e-bike out and about (perhaps I should have noted that I saw less conventional bikes too, but this is not a conversation about conventional bikes). I normally notice them because I tend to pay attention to other’s bikes because I am curious what other folks are riding. I am not saying there is anything wrong with e-cyclists (or folks on conventional cycles) that are fair weather cyclists. Not everyone wants to get out and ride in the rain, I get that.

As for the observation that the e-cyclists on the Custis are more courteous than those that I encountered on the W&OD or MVT on my previous commute, I have no idea why that is, but it is an observation that I have made. My apologies for inadvertently offending you. And kudos to the group that set up the demo, that is pretty cool!

[dplasters]

@Dewey 178522 wrote:

You may scoff but an advantage of an ebike battery and usb port in the display is you can plug in Christmas lights, run a longer lasting standlight, and front and rear lights running off the battery, on my DIY lash up I use rechargeable battery lights and in winter I’m charging them every 3 days so one far off day when I have the money to buy a pre-built ebike with such a feature it would be a helpful upgrade. I like the German pedelec ebike lights Peter White sells but most of the lower power 6v ones I would want require wiring in some sort of step down power converter and I am wary of touching the solder job I did on the battery connectors, plus I don’t know the way to Tosche station.

I feel like ebikes should come standard with a dynamo front hub.

[huskerdont]

@lordofthemark 178527 wrote:

https://www.strava.com/activities/1435947038

Nothing wrong with testing one out, if that’s what this post is saying. I merely think that since the object of the e-assist is to make things easier, by definition things are not harder; hence, no HTFUing. (I suppose there could be the exception for someone who could not otherwise ride at all for health reasons.)

[mstone]

@dplasters 178546 wrote:

I feel like ebikes should come standard with a dynamo front hub.

That seems silly, since they have a big honkin’ battery already

[Dewey]

@dplasters 178546 wrote:

I feel like ebikes should come standard with a dynamo front hub.

Some manufacturers do, Spanish company BH EasyMotion usually put them on their city ebikes like their Atom Diamond Wave, Evo City, and Evo City Wave models, the Canadian eProdigy Banff has one as well, and Dutch manufacturer Workcycles keeps the front dynamo hub when they motorize their FR8 and KR8 cargo bikes. The others could learn from Workcycles who wire up both the front and taillight to the dynamo because on the EasyMotion and eProdigy ebikes the dynamo hub only powers the front light which means you still have to change batteries on the rear which is silly when they could just wire both lights to the dynamo hub or into the main battery pack. Some 2018 Electra Loft Go! ebikes have a front dynamo hub but it is not connected to anything because someone at Trek or their supplier made a mistake when ordering parts and they just kept the dynamo hub anyway.

[dasgeh]

@Sunyata 178545 wrote:

I was not being sarcastic at all. And I am honestly not sure why you thought I was being sarcastic or why you were offended by what I said. I am not against e-bikes at all on paved/gravel multi-use trails, so long as they (like everyone should be) are courteous and safe. I just made an observation that during the rainy week last week, I was not sure I saw an e-bike out and about (perhaps I should have noted that I saw less conventional bikes too, but this is not a conversation about conventional bikes). I normally notice them because I tend to pay attention to other’s bikes because I am curious what other folks are riding. I am not saying there is anything wrong with e-cyclists (or folks on conventional cycles) that are fair weather cyclists. Not everyone wants to get out and ride in the rain, I get that.

As for the observation that the e-cyclists on the Custis are more courteous than those that I encountered on the W&OD or MVT on my previous commute, I have no idea why that is, but it is an observation that I have made. My apologies for inadvertently offending you. And kudos to the group that set up the demo, that is pretty cool!

Fair enough. I lumped you in with the others making similar comments who had added sarcasm to their comments. That was not fair, and I’m sorry.

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