e-Bikes – Let’s talk

[jrenaut]

@eBikeDude 5041 wrote:

Sorry for the slow reply. Last i checked, I was not a spambot. But if Hal has anything to say about it, that could change.

Very glad to hear that. Welcome to the forum!

[DaveK]

@ronwalf 5070 wrote:

If speed becomes an issue, there’s an easy-enough technical fix. Push manufacturers, by law or consumer groups, to install a speed regulator in the controller. Have the motor automatically kick out or fade around 15 or 18mph. That should be plenty of speed for the average user, and it doesn’t prevent them from going faster if the want to push.

Because no one with a 49cc scooter has ever put on a big bore kit or removed the restrictor from the exhaust… I don’t see that doing much to restrict anything and I don’t believe that we should be doing it anyway. There’s a speed limit right now on the Capital Crescent Trail which most fit cyclists are capable of doubling in the downhill direction. Should we put an automatic brake on bikes?

[WillStewart]

@CCrew 5050 wrote:

… the mining damage that occurs to support battery technologies is far larger than that used to support the steel and oil to power old school autos.

I’d like to see backing for that assertion from a reliable source.

[WillStewart]

There are ebikes that can be bought outright with electric boost or assist. Then there are kits that one can buy that can be added to most any bike/trike. Then there are the hobby/experimenter who patch together their own solution.

I’ve been looking at the second solution due to the combination of long distance and amount of ascent, especially in the last two miles when I should be in cool down.

One can use this simulator to understand the resulting torque/power at different speeds from a variety of component configurations;

http://www.ebikes.ca/simulator/

[CCrew]

@WillStewart 5518 wrote:

I’d like to see backing for that assertion from a reliable source.

Try google then.

[WillStewart]

@CCrew 5522 wrote:

Try google then.

That is the standard reply when someone has no backing for an assertion. Case closed.

[CCrew]

@WillStewart 5523 wrote:

That is the standard reply when someone has no backing for an assertion. Case closed.

No, that’s my short and sweet response for an asshole that clearly has no humor gene. We’ve played this game before haven’t we? Wife give you your ‘nads back? Have a great weekend.

[StopMeansStop]

Here are some comments from e bikers that tried them out on the W&OD.

http://epluselectricbike.com/faqs/can-an-electric-powered-bike-go-fast/

[CCrew]

@WillStewart 5523 wrote:

That is the standard reply when someone has no backing for an assertion. Case closed.

It’s the reply when your attitude isn’t worth my time to find you a link.

[WillStewart]

@CCrew 5548 wrote:

It’s the reply when your attitude isn’t worth my time to find you a link.

You are simply attempting to deflect an examination of your assertion – I’ll bet you cannot find a link that supports that assertion from a reliable source. I’m all for discussing the impacts of various approaches to transportation and energy, but we have to have a basis for rational discussion – simply making unfounded statements is not the way. If you were not, then it should be easy for you to back up your claim. You’re on…

[StopMeansStop]

Relax guys.

[Riley Casey]

Trail, trail, trail, trail, trail, trail. I guess I hadn’t noticed until this thread exactly how trail riding centric so many of the list regulars are. Not meant as a put down just needing a shift in my frame of reference. I am perhaps more in line with Mr. eBike man ( the OP ) in that my riding and thus frame of reference is riding on city streets and e-bikes in that environment, chugging up long asphalt hills on a dense urban commute seem perfectly sensible. I’d never buy one simply because I’d hate to have to pedal all that extra weight around when I’m not going up those hills but I’m only 60. Give me ten years and I might see it differently. the argument that some people will be irresponsible if given powerful tools is fallacious from the start however. The list of things that can be misused in the wrong hands stretch back to fire and the wheel. No need to ban electric bikes because the occasional jerk rides too fast on a multi user trail. Just be glad you get to commute on an MUT instead of elbow to fender with a lane of black Lincoln Navigators with tinted windows and the odd metro bus.

[CCrew]

@WillStewart 5550 wrote:

You are simply attempting to deflect an examination of your assertion

No, I simply have no use for you and as a result will not expend the effort necessary to appease your request. Have a nice day.

[WillStewart]

@CCrew 5562 wrote:

No, I simply have no use for you and as a result will not expend the effort necessary to appease your request. Have a nice day.

In the same light, we have no use for your groundless assertions. Keep on rolling 😎

[jabberwocky]

I’ve seen a handful of people riding e-bikes on the W&OD over the past few years. None were going so fast that I couldn’t pass them though.

I look at it as a positive. If it helps get more people out on bikes, using them for errands and commuting, thats a win for the cycling community at large because it increases demand for bike lanes, paths, gets drivers used to seeing more bikes, etc. I’d much rather see someone commuting to work on an e-bike than in a car.

I do think that there are going to be issues in the future with MUPs (like the W&OD) as the e-bikes get cheaper and faster… most paths are not designed for traffic maintaining 30+mph.

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