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@josh 170289 wrote:

Couple of rules questions.

There’s usage of both “hours 24” and “orbit of the sun”. Are they identical, or is an orbit of the sun 24 hours that starts at 12am EST, or something else? Secondly, what are the limits of finding the gameball? Once I’ve hidden it, I need to wait for three different people to find/re-hide the gameball (assuming that a “turn” is composed of a player finding and re-hiding the ball). I’m not sure how the additional turns are added in. Do I need to count the hours until the ball (when I’ve hidden it) is found, integer divide by 24, and then stay out of the game for 3+n turns (or all that with calendar days instead)? Or do I need to include more data in this calculation?

Also, what should be used at the times for hiding and finding the gameball in the above? The actual time, the time notice is posted in this thread, or something else?

An “orbit of the sun”? Is this a very long game, or did the rule maker mean a rotation of the Earth?

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@Subby 170130 wrote:

Hey just a heads up this is a message board, not a blog.

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Honestly, I can’t remember what my 2017 goals were, so I may or may not have met them. But I rode my bike, often alone, regularly with friends, and occasionally with annoying people. I slacked off on family rides, but my stoker still got several rides in.

In 2018 I plan to upgrade our tandem and teach my stoker to ring her bell at least a dozen times every time we pass someone on a road bike.

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I plan to use Whitehurst more often. In both directions. Because f*ck them and their combustion engines.

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@Sunyata 169873 wrote:

How long is “some time”? Does it count if I crashed while mountain biking and broke my wrist, but still did a 207 mile gravel race 8 weeks later?
I was literally “off the bike” for about 26 hours before I did my first splinted sleaze ride. 😎

Disqualified for egregious humblebrag.

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Awesome non sequiter.

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I’m not sure I would consider almost 14,000 square feet on 10 acres to be “quintessentially American,” but your experience may differ.

Anyone know what the huge sign at the driveway says? I always assumed it was some sort of religious retreat/compound.

Update: It seems to be an extended-family home and farm for these folks:

http://Www.pekinggourmet.com

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@hozn 169179 wrote:

I think it’s a little ridiculous that people discussing excitedly ways to improve the game is driving anyone away. You don’t have to read the thread if you don’t care!

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Well, we have to read the thread if we want to know what the new rules are going to be, or if we want to make sure to shoot down the most goofy suggestions.

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@Steve O 169149 wrote:

I’ve been giving some more thought to the Surowiecki System (S^2). Again, recognizing the potential technological constraints, a version of it could be used to create a completely democratized scoring system.

Essentially the participants themselves define the scoring system for themselves: no particular individuals, like me or hozn or jrenaut, have any more influence than anyone else. If you play the game, then you are the scoring system for the game.

How it works:
Each day you ride you get 100 points (or some value) that you then award to others (not on your team). The data about everyone’s riding is available, so if you think the riders who rode the farthest should get the most points, then they get them. If you like time better than miles, then those people. If you hear it snowed a lot in Germany, give more points to consularrider. If Sunyata visited 11 breweries in one day (!), then, dammit, she gets mine.

Because there are so many players, no one player can have much influence. If it turns out the vast majority of players like the simple days+miles, then that’s the way it will work out. If it turns out players like clever ride titles a lot, then that will play out in the scoring. If you learn someone is riding while sick and you think they deserve some bonus for that, then do it. Etcetera, etcetera. Your ability to influence the system is small, but not zero, and more if you ride on more days.

The scoring system IS the people who play the game. Instead of the Putin system where a top-down entity decides for us, it’s more an Athenian system of direct democracy. And it adapts as we go along. If the “crowd” senses the leaderboard is skewed, they will start reallocating their points so that it more closely comports with their sense of what it ought to be. After 78 days, the leaderboard will reflect almost exactly the cumulative preferences of the players. What could be better than that?

It completely eliminates the need to argue over a scoring system, because the scoring system itself embodies the discussion and gives each player an equal voice (weighted by daily participation). One might also think of it as a market-based system, where each player gets currency and you vote with your wallet.

And it completely eliminates the need to discuss the scoring system year to year. Each year the scoring system will reflect the preferences of that year’s players.

Out of all the discussions and suggestions in this thread and other related threads, this is by far the most ridiculous.

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I’m against a scoring change for one reason, and it’s the best of all possible reasons: Steve O is in favor of it.

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@LhasaCM 168990 wrote:

I thought that was the point?

The point the first few years was to ride your bike. I don’t know what you folks think the point is now.

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Y’all might be overthinking this. But that’s none of my business.

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Lawyers. Amiright?

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What’s this about Subby picking teams?

*waves hand frantically *

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