Haines Point lunchtime riders etiquette

[ShawnoftheDread]

(am I the only one looking forward to the Annie remake?)

Lord, I hope so.

[dkel]

@Raymo853 96059 wrote:

I suspect she is a Mac user.

No, man! The Mac argument is over here!

[83b]

@ShawnoftheDread 96063 wrote:

Lord, I hope so.

Whatever man, Annie is going to ride a bikeshare around NYC in the new movie. I know that I, for one, am supportive of women cyclists of color who happen to be singing, dancing, orphans.

[dasgeh]

@83(b) 96060 wrote:

Unless that rider has some sort of particular expertise in apologies, “mansplaining” doesn’t really work here. We don’t have to play social justice bingo just because two people of different genders treated each other poorly.

The issue is that isn’t that two people of different genders treated each other poorly. It’s that one man was treated poorly by multiple people of different genders, and the only one that he tracks down and berates is a woman. It smacks of serious misogyny.

And then there’s the hypocrisy of the OP’s own behavior: first accelerating into a group and pulling some dangerous looking riding himself, only to complain about another person not apologizing for dangerous riding, then completely running the stop sign in the first video (Idaho stop my bum), then complaining about the riders in the second video running the stop sign.

It sounds like lots of people were in the wrong at Hains Point, not least of all the OP.

[vvill]

I’m just glad that – sometimes – people spell Hains Point without the extraneous ‘e’.

[Drewdane]

I was considering starting to ride at Hains Point during my lunch hour, but after reading this thread I think I’ll pass.

[OneEighth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pmRw_CNCgU

[Crickey7]

Unless I’m looking at the video wrong, the whole group including the OP blew through the stop sign while vehicles were waiting to turn. That isn’t an Idaho Stop. That’s something very different.

[baiskeli]

dkel;96067 wrote:

no, man! The grilled fish argument is over here!

fify

[baiskeli]

@dasgeh 96077 wrote:

The issue is that isn’t that two people of different genders treated each other poorly. It’s that one man was treated poorly by multiple people of different genders, and the only one that he tracks down and berates is a woman. It smacks of serious misogyny.

She’s the only one he tracked down because she is the only one who bumped into him!

[83b]

@dasgeh 96077 wrote:

The issue is that isn’t that two people of different genders treated each other poorly. It’s that one man was treated poorly by multiple people of different genders, and the only one that he tracks down and berates is a woman. It smacks of serious misogyny.

I think it’s crucial to note that the only rider he tracked down and berated was also the specific rider who hit him and kept rolling. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for a rider (especially one who isn’t familiar with pack cycling) to focus his anger on the individual who struck him, rather than viewing the whole group as equally culpable. That’s what makes me unwilling to jump immediately on the misogyny bandwagon. But I also can’t watch the videos at work, so I’m missing the particulars of what the OP said and how he said it. So I’m totally open to the possibility that I’m missing color that clearly swings my view toward your side of the argument. Facts, as they say, matter.

In any event, I still object to watering down the term mansplaining.

[Steve]

Riding a bike is so complicated.

We should go for a bike ride.

[Raymo853]

@dplasters 95982 wrote:

Using public parks for your pipe dream training…. Where have I seen that go wrong recently?

I recognize some of the folks in the group, while none of them are getting calls from ONCE, some of them are hyper fast and regional accomplished.

[Drewdane]

@Raymo853 96100 wrote:

I recognize some of the folks in the group, while none of them are getting calls from ONCE, some of them are hyper fast and regional accomplished.

IOW, they should know better?

[gtmandsager]

@baiskeli 96090 wrote:

She’s the only one he tracked down because she is the only one who bumped into him!

Which had the exact same effect, none, as the dudes blowing by at 20+ mph through the corner without pausing to see if he was going straight. How many of them showed the OP respect or demonstrated remorse?

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