Four Mile Run Trail Closure Along South Glebe — Options

[CaseyKane50]

@S. Arlington Observer 146207 wrote:

Been away for a while. So, apologies if asked and answered. Is there any update on snow removal plans for this detour?

I don’t cycle on even freshly plowed trails (ice phobia) but plowing can cut the melt time dramatically. Since this is in Alexandria not sure if it will be plowed.

From Alexandria City staff.

City staff is discussing their snow operations plan for this upcoming winter season. Ideally, the City would make Four Mile Run Park Trail and other major commuter routes a higher priority than they currently are – however, this may require additional money and resources. The City is also in discussion with Arlington County to determine if a MOU can be arranged that would send Arlington’s snow removal contractors for the Four Mile Run Trail to the City’s side for the duration of the detour.

[bentbike33]

@CaseyKane50 146257 wrote:

From Alexandria City staff.

The second key to making the detour viable after a snowstorm is to ensure that the sidewalk portions are not used as they usually are: to store snow removed from the roadway.

[CaseyKane50]

I got a note this morning from the project manager

the trail closure will not occur before October 10

[Choiboy525]

BikeArlington twitter reporting that detour will begin on Nov 7, though they don’t link to or cite anything.

https://twitter.com/BikeArlington/status/790934116359221248

[Tim Kelley]

@Choiboy525 147848 wrote:

BikeArlington twitter reporting that detour will begin on Nov 7, though they don’t link to or cite anything.

https://twitter.com/BikeArlington/status/790934116359221248

It was just an email in my inbox:

http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?11041-Four-Mile-Run-Detour-2016-2017&p=147799#post147799

[Judd]

@Tim Kelley 147849 wrote:

It was just an email in my inbox:

http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?11041-Four-Mile-Run-Detour-2016-2017&p=147799#post147799

That’s it! I’m submitting a FOIA Request for everything in Tim Kelley’s email box. As an Arlington resident, I demand full transparency of all Twitter posts.

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[Tim Kelley]

Work is happening!

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[elbows]

Seems like google maps is still routing people through the closed portion of 4MR. Sure, there are detour signs but shouldn’t notifying google maps be on the list of things that get done when a major artery is closed? I will “report a problem”.

[bobco85]

@elbows 150241 wrote:

Seems like google maps is still routing people through the closed portion of 4MR. Sure, there are detour signs but shouldn’t notifying google maps be on the list of things that get done when a major artery is closed? I will “report a problem”.

I made an edit on Google Map Maker to designate the construction status as “Closed for maintenance” for the affected segments. If it is approved (I provided a link to the project page in my comment), it will take a few days before it goes into effect.

[elbows]

Looks like bobco85’s edit was effective.

Here’s another comment. Maybe it would make sense for staff to spend a little time in the area affected by a major trail closure considering the clearness of communication of the detour and the alternatives. Last night it was cold and I was late for a meeting and on a CaBi. I didn’t feel like taking the long detour so I thought I would see how bad Glebe was for the 3 blocks. Feeling vulnerable with the speeding cars, I hopped onto the sidewalk. In one stretch, the untrimmed bushes took away about half the width of the already slim sidewalk. I know that there are bigger fish to fry in the cycling world, but I also wonder how much consideration is given to the impacts of a closure.

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[Steve O]

@elbows 150379 wrote:

Looks like bobco85’s edit was effective.

Here’s another comment. Maybe it would make sense for staff to spend a little time in the area affected by a major trail closure considering the clearness of communication of the detour and the alternatives. Last night it was cold and I was late for a meeting and on a CaBi. I didn’t feel like taking the long detour so I thought I would see how bad Glebe was for the 3 blocks. Feeling vulnerable with the speeding cars, I hopped onto the sidewalk. In one stretch, the untrimmed bushes took away about half the area of the already slim sidewalk. I know that there are bigger fish to fry in the cycling world, but I also wonder how much consideration is given to the impacts of a closure.

I am virtually certain that county staff spends very little, if any, time attempting to experience what riders actually encounter. I know this from my conversations with them about all sorts of things in the county that would be instantly apparent to anyone who had actually ridden their bike there.

[semperiden]

@elbows 150379 wrote:

Looks like bobco85’s edit was effective.

Here’s another comment. Maybe it would make sense for staff to spend a little time in the area affected by a major trail closure considering the clearness of communication of the detour and the alternatives. Last night it was cold and I was late for a meeting and on a CaBi. I didn’t feel like taking the long detour so I thought I would see how bad Glebe was for the 3 blocks. Feeling vulnerable with the speeding cars, I hopped onto the sidewalk. In one stretch, the untrimmed bushes took away about half the width of the already slim sidewalk. I know that there are bigger fish to fry in the cycling world, but I also wonder how much consideration is given to the impacts of a closure.

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I see people entering the closed trail and coming out of it all the time. Especially when it gets dark… Not sure how bad it is, but some people love to not follow rules.

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