Arlington 2019 Paving Map
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March 18, 2019 at 4:09 pm #1097045
dasgeh
ParticipantI’ll start: N Quincy in front of W-L HS should have protected bike lanes
Military Road north of Lee is far too wide — narrow the road and provide good, continuous bike lanes (maybe protected – I’m actually not sure how many driveways we have there).
March 18, 2019 at 4:11 pm #1097046dasgeh
Participant7th St North west of Pershing should have a contraflow bike lane
March 18, 2019 at 5:29 pm #1097049scoot
ParticipantExtend the Wilson Blvd road diet west to the county line (McKinley).
March 18, 2019 at 5:30 pm #1097050scoot
ParticipantA PBL (well daylighted at the intersections) would make the Superman Hill climb much more comfortable (Walter Reed northbound from W&OD to Pollard).
March 18, 2019 at 5:33 pm #1097051scoot
ParticipantClarendon “Circle”:
It is unclear how much of this intersection the 2019 paving plan encompasses, but a painted bike lane through the intersection connecting eastbound Wilson into eastbound Clarendon would be really helpful. Especially for those cyclists who come from eastbound Fairfax and jump onto the sidewalk at Northside Social in order to do that awkward box turn to reach eastbound Clarendon Blvd. Eventually I hope to see a fully continuous bike lane on Wilson/Clarendon all the way from Seven Corners to Rosslyn; this would be an importance piece of that puzzle.
March 18, 2019 at 5:39 pm #1097052scoot
Participant@dasgeh 188906 wrote:
Military Road north of Lee is far too wide — narrow the road and provide good, continuous bike lanes (maybe protected – I’m actually not sure how many driveways we have there).
Given the terrain, perhaps climbing lanes (both directions leading away from Vacation Lane) and downhill sharrows (both directions toward Vacation Lane)?
Not sure why this street has a 30MPH speed limit, but it should be redesigned somehow to support 25 instead.
March 18, 2019 at 6:59 pm #1097055dasgeh
Participant@scoot 188912 wrote:
Clarendon “Circle”:
It is unclear how much of this intersection the 2019 paving plan encompasses, but a painted bike lane through the intersection connecting eastbound Wilson into eastbound Clarendon would be really helpful. Especially for those cyclists who come from eastbound Fairfax and jump onto the sidewalk at Northside Social in order to do that awkward box turn to reach eastbound Clarendon Blvd. Eventually I hope to see a fully continuous bike lane on Wilson/Clarendon all the way from Seven Corners to Rosslyn; this would be an importance piece of that puzzle.
There’s an entire plan for Clarendon Circle!
https://projects.arlingtonva.us/projects/clarendon-circle/
March 18, 2019 at 7:05 pm #1097056dasgeh
ParticipantMy complete list of streets to consider:
- Little Falls
- McKinley/Ohio
- Patrick Henry
- Wilson (west of “N Arlington Mill Drive”)
- N Park Drive
- Lorcom
- Military
- Quincy
- 7th St N
- N Highland St (south of Key Blvd)
- Carlin Springs
- 5th Road South (connecting into FFX)
- S Walter Reed, particularly up Superman Hill
March 18, 2019 at 7:30 pm #1097057semperiden
ParticipantAdd a lane from South Glebe Rd from 4MR trail to S Walter Reed. Or at least from 24th Street to S Walter Reed.
Also, assess crosswalk safety at the ramps to 395. Even pedestrians have a hard time crossing there.
March 18, 2019 at 7:53 pm #1097060zsionakides
Participant@scoot 188911 wrote:
A PBL (well daylighted at the intersections) would make the Superman Hill climb much more comfortable (Walter Reed northbound from W&OD to Pollard).
The width of a PBL would matter more here. A narrow PBL with the lost space from the gutter could be really hairy to ride up, maybe worse than the current conditions.
Ideally they would get ride of the median islands or the parking lane, then you could easily fit in a cycletrack or a shared used path in conjunction with the existing sidewalk up to Pollard.
March 18, 2019 at 8:04 pm #1097061zsionakides
Participant@dasgeh 188906 wrote:
I’ll start: N Quincy in front of W-L HS should have protected bike lanes
Military Road north of Lee is far too wide — narrow the road and provide good, continuous bike lanes (maybe protected – I’m actually not sure how many driveways we have there).
Military Rd should definitely have PBLs even with the few driveways, and Lorcom Ln should put PBLs in strategically as well.
March 18, 2019 at 10:27 pm #1097067scoot
Participant@zsionakides 188922 wrote:
The width of a PBL would matter more here. A narrow PBL with the lost space from the gutter could be really hairy to ride up, maybe worse than the current conditions. Ideally they would get ride of the median islands or the parking lane …
If space is an issue, a road diet with median removal is a nice solution. I have never seen any traffic congestion going up that hill. As long as thru-vehicles can get around those who are waiting to make left turns, there is no need for a second thru lane. We could add the second vehicle lane in the downhill direction near the bottom of the hill to maintain southbound capacity through the signal at 4MR.
@zsionakides 188922 wrote:
… then you could easily fit in a cycletrack or a shared used path in conjunction with the existing sidewalk up to Pollard.
I oppose converting this bike lane into any sort of two-way facility (e.g. a cycletrack or MUP). Adding high-speed downhill bicycles to the mix on that side of the road would be extremely dangerous.
March 18, 2019 at 10:31 pm #1097068scoot
Participant@semperiden 188919 wrote:
Add a lane from South Glebe Rd from 4MR trail to S Walter Reed. Or at least from 24th Street to S Walter Reed.
These would be great. But if I interpret the map correctly, the blue roads are not on the paving schedule but rather happen to serve as boundaries between maintenance zones. Glebe would be VDOT territory anyway.
March 18, 2019 at 11:04 pm #1097066semperiden
Participant@scoot 188929 wrote:
These would be great. But if I interpret the map correctly, the blue roads are not on the paving schedule but rather happen to serve as boundaries between maintenance zones. Glebe would be VDOT territory anyway.
Sigh. I believe you are right.
March 19, 2019 at 1:39 am #1097005zsionakides
Participant@scoot 188928 wrote:
If space is an issue, a road diet with median removal is a nice solution. I have never seen any traffic congestion going up that hill. As long as thru-vehicles can get around those who are waiting to make left turns, there is no need for a second thru lane. We could add the second vehicle lane in the downhill direction near the bottom of the hill to maintain southbound capacity through the signal at 4MR.
I oppose converting this bike lane into any sort of two-way facility (e.g. a cycletrack or MUP). Adding high-speed downhill bicycles to the mix on that side of the road would be extremely dangerous.
I don’t think you could road diet that part of Walter Reed as rush hour traffic is pretty heavy all the way to Columbia Pike. Getting rid of the median allows for a wide enough PBL going uphill (say 6-8’ wide) and a narrower PBL going downhill.
If you get rid of the parking on the northbound side and keep the median, then there’s an 11-12’ wide facility. A cycle track would be the only thing that makes sense, otherwise it will look like a gold plated bike lane if it goes one way.
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