[EasyRider]

Thanks, appreciate it. I’ll go with the Paul keeper for now and if I have any trouble a new clutch derailleur should solve it. Nothing to stop me from using 8 speed friction shifting with a modern clutch RD, right?

[EasyRider]

Thanks to you both. This thread has made me rethink not using a chain retention device in place of a front derailleur. I think I’ll give the Paul Components chain keeper a go, with a 1×8 drivetrain fom the parts bin.

Sooner or later, I think I’d drop a chain without a wide-narrow chainring and/or clutch RD. Those things seem to require 9-11 speed setups, or at least chains, but I’d like to stay with 8 speeds. It’s cheaper, but what’s more important to me is that I like friction shifting, and once you get past 8 speeds it can be a little tricky to “find” the gear you want using a friction shifter.

The Paul device looks nice and costs about the same as a wide-narrow ring. I’m putting Paul touring cantis on this bike so there’s that, too.

[EasyRider]

Shoot. I think I’ll skip the trial and error phase, then.

[EasyRider]

Thanks. Sounds like I’ve nothing to lose by trying the old Suntour rear derailleur … and a plain old chainring from the parts bin, for that matter.

Is anyone on this forum successfully running a 1×7 or a 1×8 without any sort of chain retention device?

I think I’ll give it a shot. I’m not really looking for wide gearing right now anyway. A 38t or 40t chainring with an 11×28 cassette would be fine (and 28t is all the old Suntour RD can handle anyway). If I end up liking the 1x setup, I think I’d spring for a 10 speed cassette, chain, clutch RD, and narrow wide chainring.

[EasyRider]

I got the same wait list message Husker Did, and put my name on the “wait list.”

The NPS event page says that registration is simply to help estimate attendance, and had nothing to do with parking, which is first come first serve. The event page had no mention of a cap on the number of participants, but maybe there is and it was reached almost immediately.

[EasyRider]

Yes, that “scabbard” looks a little too involved for my taste. I’ll try strapping a rod holder to the side of my rear rack, but I’d rather have it up front. One reason is I might want to use both panniers on some jaunts, and also, it’s easier to swing a leg over the bike without a rod back there.

Tiny/telescoping rods aren’t much fun to fish with.

[EasyRider]

Yes, but … no fabrication involved!

Thanks for the offer Vicegrip. What kind of beer do you prefer?

[EasyRider]

Thanks, that’s a good idea. Might have to offset it from the strut to clear the basket. It would lower the rod tips quite a bit to put them lower and on an angle like that.

[EasyRider]

Here are some pics of the old setup.

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[EasyRider]

I agree, boutique hubs aren’t really a bang-for-the-buck upgrade for a rough stuff bike like a Soma Wolverine. But I’d love to have shiny Phil Woods on a singlespeed or fixed gear bike. Yessir.

I didn’t want to go off topic in my response to the OP, but part of why I asked about what tires would be used is that given a limited budget, I’d rather ride inexpensive, durable wheels and and the nicest tires I can afford, or find. It seems like backwards logic, since tires must be replaced regularly, and a well-cared for wheelset can last for a decade or more. But my experience is that cheapo crummy tires will bring a nice new wheelset down to their level.

[EasyRider]

One more!
http://bicyclewheelwarehouse.com/Road/mavic-a319-shimano-xt-disc.html

I have these rims and they are very durable, and versatile. They will take tires from 28-45mm. The xt hubs are disc but the rims can be used with vbrakes or cantilevers … A bonus for wheel swapping with other bikes. I doubt you’ll find a better value for a touring wheelset ($300) but I would guess at that price that the hubs will need grease and adjustment out of the box, and some tweaks to the spokes as well. Perhaps Hozn would give them a once over for that sixer.

[EasyRider]

One more … Velocity has a disc touring wheelset for $425.

http://www.velocityusa.com/product/wheels/touring/touring-disc-wheelset

The tire clearance on the Wolverine is 45mm with fenders and there are a lot of nice 700c tires in the ~40mm range from Soma, Compass, Schwalbe and others.

[EasyRider]

What tires do you want to use/what did the shop recommend?

[EasyRider]

That fender looks like trouble. Tire clearance is minimal, and no safety breakaway tabs. Plus coverage is poor. Does Calfee offer those or was that an owner’s modification?

[EasyRider]

Here’s Google’s terrain profile of the route, looks like the return trip will test those with less stellar descending skills
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