Your latest bike purchase?
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@Sunyata 146761 wrote:
Finally.
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]12506[/ATTACH]A carbon gravel bike? I am now envious and regretful that I don’t have a carbon option for C&O commute days.
@Sunyata 146822 wrote:
Yep. The 2017 Warbird. I have been waiting on this bike for almost a year
Same! I almost got a different bike (considered the Raleigh Roker, Jamis Supernova, etc. had a peek at the Diamondback Haanjo and GT Grade and gawked at the Open Cycles U.P.) but ended up coming back to the Warbird. I really liked the idea behind the Warbird ever since Salsa first came out with it.
I haven’t ridden mine enough to give it a fair evaluation because of a current wrist issue but I did throw on pedals and spin around the block.
So far I have trouble shifting with the SRAM shifters (never owned a SRAM bike before), and the braking seems a lot more modulated than the TRP hydros on my Raleigh SSCX – so both of those make it feel weird. The bars almost feel too wide but I may well change my tune on long gravel rides, which is what the bike’s really made for. There’s no toe overlap at all which is awesome (all my drop bar bikes to date have toe overlap) but I can definitely tell the front end is slacker (70.5 HTA compared with 72 on my SSCX and FG and 73 on my road bike). Again, that’s probably a good thing once I go back to riding off-road. Otherwise, the geometry is quite similar to the Kona Jake I sold. The stem is probably too high up for my liking and the bartape feels like a little slippery so those may need changes too.
FWIW the stock saddle/seatpost combo is over 600g, so planning to swap that out for some easy weight savings. This is also my first carbon frame so I may actually do some weight weenie-ing of other parts, although I don’t see too many other easy swaps. A light crankset and/or 1x would save a significant amount of weight but would be pricey, and I still like having a double.
@vvill 146838 wrote:
A light crankset and/or 1x would save a significant amount of weight but would be pricey, and I still like having a double.
(Can’t wait to see the new bike!)
My calculations so far says that 1x really won’t save weight unless you go to the high-end
driver cassettes. Or give up range and run a smaller-sized cassette. The 1x RDs are 100g heavier and the X-Sync rings are a lot heavier too, but cassettes are probably the biggest factor. The 11-40 Sunrace 11sp cassette is 380g, which is probably the best value since it is somewhere around $60-80. The XTR 11-40 is 320-330g and has a street price around $180. Then there is the SeqLite 11-40 which is ~260g and $130 but all 3 big cogs are aluminum, so apparently it doesn’t last long. And the cheaper cassette is somewhere around 310g but costs $200. Which is lot of money for a disposable part. (Those weights and prices are from memory so may not all be accurate.)But I am still moving forward sourcing components to make my road bike 1x hydro (Force/Rival 1 mix). It will be about the same weight, but the cleaner lines, much less risk of chain drop, and simpler sequential shifting are worth the bigger gaps. Once I got used to the 10sp 11-36 cassette, I really haven’t missed the second ring on my commuter either even on faster road rides. (I have noticed the missing 14t or 12t rings and do spend a disproportionate amount of time down there on account of the 44t ring, but wouldn’t trade the smaller step for the other ring in front.)
@hozn 146903 wrote:
My calculations so far says that 1x really won’t save weight unless you go to the high-end
driver cassettes. Or give up range and run a smaller-sized cassette. The 1x RDs are 100g heavier and the X-Sync rings are a lot heavier too, but cassettes are probably the biggest factor. The 11-40 Sunrace 11sp cassette is 380g, which is probably the best value since it is somewhere around $60-80. The XTR 11-40 is 320-330g and has a street price around $180. Then there is the SeqLite 11-40 which is ~260g and $130 but all 3 big cogs are aluminum, so apparently it doesn’t last long. And the cheaper cassette is somewhere around 310g but costs $200. Which is lot of money for a disposable part. (Those weights and prices are from memory so may not all be accurate.)Yeah I noticed the RD is heavier, and the saving on the left shifter, cable and FD may not offset the big cassettes. I guess it’s more that if I was going to upgrade the crankset I would first consider 1x as an upgrade to do at the same time. Also, it would be nice to have no visible cables going under the bike (the hydro line can be run internally in place of the FD cable).
Part of my reluctance to jump on the 1x thing is needing more specialized equipment – big cassette, longer chain, narrow-wide chainring, clutched RD, etc. and losing the security of a FD for the chain. The gear jumps aren’t really too much a concern for me, although I’d imagine in a race situation with a peloton it could be an issue.
@Sunyata 146912 wrote:
My bars are too narrow. The 53 came stock with 40mm bars, which are a smidge too narrow (my old road bike had 42’s, and those were okay, but I would have probably been more comfortable with 44’s, since they were not flared). If you do decide that yours are too wide, we can either trade or I can sell you mine for cheap. I need something to tide me over until the new Easton EC70AX’s are available (I am so excited about these bars, carbon with a 16 degree flare!).
I am interested in a bar swap, but not 100% sure yet – I won’t be riding my Warbird much until my wrist gets better
Mine is a 55 and I measured the bars at 42 center-to-center. Those Eastons sound pretty awesome though.
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