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[hozn]

@Phatboing 111974 wrote:

I have these on the Colossal and now on the fixie, and they’re awesome. Fast (for me) and comfy, but will puncture easily if you pump em up to 105 like the sidewall thinks is appropriate.

Oh? I think mine are at 105. So you are saying to run them lower? (Not that you are lunch flatting at 105, right?)

Glad to hear the good review! Seemed like a nice option to try, cheaper than the GP4000S tires I was running in summer (and which are very hard to mount on my Flo30 commuter rims).

[Phatboing]

@hozn 111981 wrote:

(Not that you are lunch flatting at 105, right?)

I know you meant pinch flat, but a lunch flat sounds undesirable too.

At 105, my tires found the tiniest bit of debris in the Gallows bike lane, and went pfff. So my theory was that maybe at high pressure the tire don’t deform over road crud very well. I usually run at 90, and haven’t had a flat even rolling over broken glass.

[vvill]

105 PSI on 28mms?!

I’ve been running that Clement as my rear FG tire, usually around 90 PSI. Been pleasantly surprised with how it’s wearing (I don’t skid stop), enjoy the comfort/feel and no flats yet. I honestly wonder if I’ll ever buy Gatorskins again – I’ve never flatted on them but I’m not a huge fan of the feel or handling in the wet.

[hozn]

Yeah, I meant pinch flat. Hilarious autocorrect

Ok, I will keep them around 90psi. I just default to around 100psi on the 28mm tires I have been running (Duranos), though certainly comfort improves at lower psi. I actually bought the Topeak pressure gauge and learned that my Lezyne pumps were both reading quite a bit higher (going on assumption that the Topeak gauge is more accurate, anyway).

[hozn]

The Celment Strada LGG are nice tires — rode in on them this AM. Definitely feel faster than the Duranos, which is nice. I’m running at 90psi which is plenty comfy.

I agree re: Gatorskins; I don’t see the need to ever use them again. They suck in wet/slippery conditions and aren’t very fast. The GP4000S are quite puncture-resistant without giving up rolling speed or grip. The Schwalbe Duranos are very puncture resistant, very grippy, and last a long time. They do give up a bit of speed, but supposedly roll faster than the GP 4 Seasons and definitely last much longer. They are an awesome winter tire (when you don’t need studded tires but want good traction in the slick and don’t want to flat from the potholes and debris that litter our roads).

[americancyclo]

@hozn 111954 wrote:

Winter is over so trying out some new lighter-duty tires.

I have the 700x25s on my purple crabon bike for the past 2300 miles and they are holding up well. They did seem skinnier (physically narrower from bead to bead) and a slightly harsher ride than the GP 4000S that i was riding previously, but at half the cost, why not?

Thinking about putting 28s on the gravel bike for summer commute times.

[hozn]

@americancyclo 112043 wrote:

I have the 700x25s on my purple crabon bike for the past 2300 miles and they are holding up well. They did seem skinnier (physically narrower from bead to bead) and a slightly harsher ride than the GP 4000S that i was riding previously, but at half the cost, why not?

Thinking about putting 28s on the gravel bike for summer commute times.

Yeah, agreed; these 28s do seem narrower than the 700×28 Duranos. Surprising, since Velo had these measured as one of the wider 28c tires. I haven’t actually pulled out the caliper to measure, but they look kinda like my 700×25 GP4000S tires (which measure almost 28mm on these Flo30 rims, IIRC). These were $37 on Amazon; I typically have gotten the GP4000S for $40-45, though I’ve gathered that customs charges are becoming more of an issue with orders form the UK. PlanetCyclery typically has the Conti tires for relatively inexpensive. Hard to find the 700×28 Conti GP4000S, though, if you want that larger casing.

Main reason I don’t want to use the GP4000S this summer is that they don’t fit on the Flo30 rims without special tools. (I fault the rims.) I was able to mount the Clement tires w/o tools, unlike the Contis which needed a tire jack. (I did change tube on the GP4000S tire w/ a speedlever, but would rather have a set of tires I can confidently change with standard levers.)

These don’t feel as fast as the GP4000S tires, but it’s kinda hard to say for sure with only one datapoint.

[ShawnoftheDread]

Were y’all using regular Gatorskins or the Gatorskins Hardcase? Just curious as I use the former and have no issues with them in the rain. Although I’m sure I corner more cautiously (read: slower) than either hozn or vvill.

[hozn]

Regular Gatorskins. I have fallen using Gatorskins a couple of times in wet conditions, but this is quite anecdotal! I have also read that the GP4000S are grippier and this combined with no falls (knock on wood) makes me believe the marketing.

Gatorskins are very slow wearing which is nice. And they are lighter weight than many puncture-resistant tires, buy I do feel they are slower and lack the cornering confidence of stickier tires. Could be all in my head.

[ShawnoftheDread]

@hozn 112055 wrote:

Gatorskins are very slow wearing which is nice. And they are lighter weight than many puncture-resistant tires, buy I do feel they are slower and lack the cornering confidence of stickier tires. Could be all in my head.

Or I could switch tires and be amazed at how slow I’ve been going. I’ve just ordered a new pair, though, as I’ve gotten a couple of recent flats with my current pair, which have about 7000-7300 miles on them. I don’t know if that’s good or bad.

[hozn]

@ShawnoftheDread 112056 wrote:

Or I could switch tires and be amazed at how slow I’ve been going. I’ve just ordered a new pair, though, as I’ve gotten a couple of recent flats with my current pair, which have about 7000-7300 miles on them. I don’t know if that’s good or bad.

That sounds pretty solid! For me, 3500-4000 miles is “great”. I replace them when they start flatting or showing casing threads, though.

[vvill]

I’ve only ever used regular Gatorskins. I’ve never slid out in the wet on them either, so it could also all be in my head. FWIW I usually ride my “fast” bike with a 25mm Gatorskin on the rear PowerTap wheel and a Durano up front. The Gatorskin also serves trainer duty since it lasts ages and the wheel is a clunker anyway.

I’d rather have the suppler/grippier tire up front wearing slowly and the harder wearing one the back. I once used a pair of Hutchison Fusion 23s and I felt like they were great – fast AND supple but they also wore really fast (squaring off at ~2k miles). If I were serious about riding speed/racing I would use something like that for events (and probably own a lighter bike).

[Jason B]

I just picked up a pair of Vittoria Pave CG’s. I liked the Gatorskins, but my trainer didn’t get as much ice this winter:rolleyes:, so I thought I try something a little racier. I have a couple of bumpy races and fondo’s, so I still needed something semi-tough. I’ll give you a follow-up report later this season. Although I recently read Clement makes a better/cheaper roubaix than the Pave’s (if that makes sense), can’t remember which one it was though.

[hozn]

I think this (Strava LGG) is the competition to the Pave? At least it was mentioned side-by-side with the Vittoria tire in Velo article on wide tires (for cobbles). Their review suggested that the Pave is more supple (faster?) but not as flat resistant.

[Jason B]

^^^^
Yea, that’s the Velo article I was referring to. Damn, didn’t realize they are almost half the price. Dat ain’t right! Oh well, I least I have cool green stripe, which has to be worth at least an extra $20 per tire 😡
Just curious, are all you LGG’ers running 120tpi?

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