while we’re talking tires…good compromise between gravel and slick?

[Raymo853]

Shoot, my Gravelkings left me down on a ride. The sidewall got cut be a rock while on tame single track. Was my fault as I failed to follow my advice, go over rocks, not around. This is my first sidewall cut in years which is insane with my attraction to rocks.

Lots of the sealant came out. Had to tube it. May try to patch up side wall or may just get some G Ones.

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[Lt. Dan]

http://terrenetires.com/elwood/

I’ve sold a few sets of these now with positive reviews

[hozn]

I’ve been reviewing these Compass Barlow Pass tires on the tire loan thread, but this is probably the better place.

I discovered the reason that my front tire was losing air slowly. Obviously these sidewalls are not the toughest barriers. Luckily it sealed up fine after shaking the tire a bit. I’m glad I’m not using these with tubes; I have a suspicion that I would have had a few flats in the rear tire by now.

[hozn]

@Lt. Dan 169079 wrote:

http://terrenetires.com/elwood/

I’ve sold a few sets of these now with positive reviews

I’ve been tempted. I might try a set of the Light version for my next gravel tires.

[TwoWheelsDC]

So I think I’m giving up on the Schwalbe G-Ones and going back to the Clement X’Plor MSOs. I’ve now gotten large punctures on the rear tire twice in less than 1200 miles, both from riding through gravelly shoulder areas of the road. The one I got yesterday was pretty small, but I think the cold kept it from sealing and the tire went completely flat (it punctured in probably the last half mile of my commute) while sitting in the parking garage. The cold also caused the tire to shrink up when it lost air and my mini pump wasn’t powerful enough to get it back on the bead. I’m going to bring the bike home and put a dynaplug in the hole and see how that goes, but I think I’m going to replace these tires with the Clements once they wear out or inevitably puncture again.

The G-Ones seem great for actual gravel or clean pavement, but they just seem to be too soft to stand up to the type of gravel that tends to accumulate on the shoulders where I spend a decent amount of time during my commute. The Clements seemed much more durable in that regard, at the cost of a small amount of speed.

[hozn]

To circle back to this thread, I have been really happy with the Compass Barlow Pass tires for on and off pavement. They definitely do not have as much traction in loose gravel, compared to a G-One Allround (which is not a super grippy tire either), but for the gravel rides I have done around here that is pretty irrelevant for 97% of the time. And they are really fast on pavement. No flats on these in ~2000 miles.

I picked up a set of lightly used Snoqualmie Pass (44mm) tires on eBay for $80, which seemed perfect to try out. These are actually the extralite casing too. Combined with my new carbon commuter wheels, the setup is both very plush and very light. So I’ve switched over to these for the summer — or until I get frustrated by flats etc.

The extralite casing is definitely harder to setup tubeless (needs more sealant – air just leaks out of the sidewalls until they get coated). But I was glad I had set them up tubeless, as my kids like to leave thumbtacks lying around the basement …

[hozn]

These tires feel huge!

After settling in for a couple days, they are holding air fine.

They feel really nice. Probably those paper-thin sidewalls Do they feel faster than the 38mm Barlow Pass? Not really, no. Do they feel faster than my Specialized Turbo S-Works 28mm tubeless tires? Definitely not.

I would say that my impressions, contrary to the current trend-bucking trend, bigger is not faster — at least beyond a point (with the tires I have tried that point is somewhere around 30mm). But big tires really do make rides fun and the speed penalty feels small in comparison to the added the versatility.

I am gonna brave some gravel on these — maybe this weekend.

[dplasters]

@hozn 177497 wrote:

Combined with my new carbon commuter wheels, the setup is both very plush and very light.

Carbon commuter wheels you say?

[hozn]

@dplasters 177637 wrote:

Carbon commuter wheels you say?

Yessir. Carbon rim prices keep coming down. These are some real box-checkers: 33mm deep, 21mm wide (internal), asymmetric, hookless, tubeless [of course]. These are by Yishun. They built up quite nicely, though their nipple drilling doesn’t appear to be angled/offset, which makes some of the spokes enter at a bit of an angle. I might have used 12mm nipples if I’d realized that.

I’ve got a set of inexpensive alloy wheels (DT R460db) for spare/winter wheels, but in general now I’ve become a believer in carbon being a stronger rim (especially hookless). (Which I realize is what people — and science — have has been saying for some time.)

[Tania]

@hozn 177645 wrote:

but in general now I’ve become a believer in carbon being a stronger rim (especially hookless). (Which I realize is what people — and science — have has been saying for some time.)

My trail bike came stock with carbon rims (and hopes — woot!). I bent a spoke a few weekends ago (ok, technically I didn’t, the 2″ stick that got stuck in my wheel did) and I was worried until one of my mechanic friends assured me that with these rims, I could bend five or six spokes and not worry.

That is a sweet looking bike. Love the yellow and blue.

[Raymo853]

Amazing how often I come back to this thread. My rear 32 Sector 32 is on its last miles. Going to try a S-Works Turbo 28 for the front this time.

[hozn]

@Raymo853 179167 wrote:

Amazing how often I come back to this thread. My rear 32 Sector 32 is on its last miles. Going to try a S-Works Turbo 28 for the front this time.

I’ve been happy with the S-Works Turbo. They run a little small. I think on my fairly wide (21mm-internal) rims they measure right around 28mm. But easy to set up tubeless and, as one would hope, haven’t had any issues / flats in the 1000ish miles I’ve ridden them — which included some gravel on Poolesville road race. Can’t say if they feel faster than Schwalbe Pro One, but certainly don’t feel slower. This is a fast road tire.

[Overtone]

@TwoWheelsDC 169596 wrote:

So I think I’m giving up on the Schwalbe G-Ones and going back to the Clement X’Plor MSOs. I’ve now gotten large punctures on the rear tire twice in less than 1200 miles, both from riding through gravelly shoulder areas of the road. The one I got yesterday was pretty small, but I think the cold kept it from sealing and the tire went completely flat (it punctured in probably the last half mile of my commute) while sitting in the parking garage. The cold also caused the tire to shrink up when it lost air and my mini pump wasn’t powerful enough to get it back on the bead. I’m going to bring the bike home and put a dynaplug in the hole and see how that goes, but I think I’m going to replace these tires with the Clements once they wear out or inevitably puncture again.

The G-Ones seem great for actual gravel or clean pavement, but they just seem to be too soft to stand up to the type of gravel that tends to accumulate on the shoulders where I spend a decent amount of time during my commute. The Clements seemed much more durable in that regard, at the cost of a small amount of speed.

Wish I’d read this thread before I bought some G-Ones!

Can confirm I had exactly the same experience. Two flats in 6 weeks of riding. (I was using tubes.) The kicker is that I couldn’t get the bead to seat when I changed the flats in the field. My LBS had suggested putting talcum powder on the tubes, which I did, but still found myself spending a day and a half on the Erie Canal towpath with a wobbly front tire. Normally I run tires for a long long time, but I gave up on these G-Ones and put on a pair of Marathon Supremes yesterday. The tires went on quickly and easily and my ride this morning was delightful. The marathons don’t grab onto gravel nearly as well – they are touring road tires – so I guess I’m back in the market for a gravel tire to use next time I do a trip like C&O or Erie.

John

[hozn]

It’s so odd to me that you guys have had problems with the G-Ones. Still by far my favorite serious gravel tire, though I am gonna try some Donnelly Strada USHs or similar for additional perspective now that they make their tires tubeless in larger sizes.

But I have had zero flats on G-One tires and that includes 4 or 5 gravel races in addition to a fair number of single-track miles. This is the larger (700×38/40-622) size and always tubeless. These tires are super easy to setup tubeless. Anecdotally it does seem that Schwalbe tires can be tricky to snap beads onto rim shoulders when using tubes; they fit pretty snug. You can get a bead seater tool (or probably diy one) or maybe use furniture polish or similar lubricant. I just run them tubeless.

I’m sure now I’ll get a bunch of flats on these, but until then this still my unrivaled havier-duty off-road gravel tire (as opposed to Compass tires that are my favorite lighter-duty and large-volume pavement tire).

[runbike]

@hozn 179448 wrote:

It’s so odd to me that you guys have had problems with the G-Ones. Still by far my favorite serious gravel tire, though I am gonna try some Donnelly Strada USHs or similar for additional perspective now that they make their tires tubeless in larger sizes.

But I have had zero flats on G-One tires and that includes 4 or 5 gravel races in addition to a fair number of single-track miles. This is the larger (700×38/40-622) size and always tubeless. These tires are super easy to setup tubeless.

I’m equally enamored with my G-Ones (38c “all around” version), tubeless setup. No issues whatsoever in roughly ~1000 miles of use at this point. I actually got a fair-sized nick in the front tire, but the sealant went to work and it’s held air with no issues since then on all kinds of terrain (country road gravel, towpath, etc.)

My only gripe is that they seem to wear pretty fast. The center nubs are almost completely gone at this point. Thinking about picking up a pair of the new G-One bites as a replacement…

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