Need Help to ID cyclist who assaulted me on the WO&D near Custis 7:45am May 13th

[thucydides]

I’m often in that vicinity around that time and will keep an eye out. What color saddle bags? The world is full of sad and angry people. Unfortunately some of them are cyclists.

[mstone]

I’d encourage you to file a police report if you haven’t already.

[Dickie]

I’m so sorry you had to deal with such a terrible person on the trail, please don’t let his actions represent the majority of us who try to be good citizens and cycling ambassadors on the roads and trails. As thucydides noted, sadly there are folks around that are just angry no matter what they are doing. I will keep an eye out myself although I am rarely in that vicinity in the mornings…. which way was he heading, west or east? Thanks again for posting this and making us aware, I hope you had a better run today.

[rpiretti]

Will keep an eye out.

[jabberwocky]

That kind of crap is totally unacceptable. Hope you catch the guy.

[McChipstah]

@Dickie 51964 wrote:

I’m so sorry you had to deal with such a terrible person on the trail, please don’t let his actions represent the majority of us who try to be good citizens and cycling ambassadors on the roads and trails. As thucydides noted, sadly there are folks around that are just angry no matter what they are doing. I will keep an eye out myself although I am rarely in that vicinity in the mornings…. which way was he heading, west or east? Thanks again for posting this and making us aware, I hope you had a better run today.

He was coming from Mad Manor/Falls Church heading east and turned left onto Custis. We usually run M, W, F and I plan on bringing my cellphone w/me from now on to see if he happens to pass and I can take his pict.

Thank you for your kind words.

[McChipstah]

@mstone 51962 wrote:

I’d encourage you to file a police report if you haven’t already.

I did

[mcgeekgrrl]

Although I am not disputing that the guy in question is an asshole, I would suggest that we all should at least TRY to refrain from making inflammatory comments. He was rude to you–but calling him an asshole is really not helping anything. If not for the sake of a more civil world, then how about for purely practical reasons, such as self preservation? People have been shot for lesser insults. You just never know in these crazy times who is carrying a gun. (Or even if no gun, who will just stop and beat you up!)

Let’s all avoid calling people names, and just breathe deeply the next time someone cuts you off or startles you. We can all do our part to lessening the incivility we are surrounded by every day.

My $.02

[JimF22003]

I got called an idiot by a self-righteous biker on the CCT right near Bethesda a couple of weeks ago because I zipped into the oncoming lane, passed somebody in front of me, and zipped back into my lane with a good 40 FEET of distance clear in front of me. And I called my pass, which I doubt Miss SR could hear.

I didn’t like being called an idiot.

[scott930]

Why does it seem at times that the more metal, the more road rage and inflated tough guy attitude….drivers > cyclists > runners/walkers?

Sadly there is a subset of cyclists that give the whole of us a really bad name on the W&OD. And it isn’t just the people bombing through stop signs and red lights. I’m a runner on the W&OD almost daily, far more often than I’m a cyclist, and defensive running has become a necessity due to riders going 2+ abreast or passing, over the center line, and assuming that I’m going to move. Though I certainly don’t want to play chicken with an oncoming cyclist and know I’d take the worst of a collision, it’s tempting to just hold my line. Why should I be required to seek shelter on the shoulder because you can’t ride single file or pass appropriately? Thank god for the bridle trail west of Vienna being a safe haven (although have been chased there by an off-leash dog).

Folks should really put themselves in each others shoes and understand the issues. As a runner and cyclist on the W&OD, and a driver on roads that intersect the W&OD a couple times a day, all three groups can be more alert, more courteous, and more forgiving.

[mstone]

@scott930 52158 wrote:

Why does it seem at times that the more metal, the more road rage and inflated tough guy attitude….drivers > cyclists > runners/walkers?

Sadly there is a subset of cyclists that give the whole of us a really bad name on the W&OD. And it isn’t just the people bombing through stop signs and red lights. I’m a runner on the W&OD almost daily, far more often than I’m a cyclist, and defensive running has become a necessity due to riders going 2+ abreast or passing, over the center line, and assuming that I’m going to move. Though I certainly don’t want to play chicken with an oncoming cyclist and know I’d take the worst of a collision, it’s tempting to just hold my line. Why should I be required to seek shelter on the shoulder because you can’t ride single file or pass appropriately? Thank god for the bridle trail west of Vienna being a safe haven (although have been chased there by an off-leash dog).

Folks should really put themselves in each others shoes and understand the issues. As a runner and cyclist on the W&OD, and a driver on roads that intersect the W&OD a couple times a day, all three groups can be more alert, more courteous, and more forgiving.

It’s not a mode thing, it’s a selfish human thing; I’ve had as much trouble with joggers running 2 or 3 abreast as with cyclists. I’ve also had pedestrians yell at me for being (legally) on a shared trail. And don’t get people started on ninja crazy ivans.

I have started providing feedback to cyclists passing pedestrians at high speed “in the middle lane,” as I think it’s important for a community to establish acceptable norms, but I don’t really expect that to make a difference given the immense weight of selfishness on all sides in our society.

[TrikerOne]

I spend a lot of time on the W&OD wearing a Trail Patrol jersey and we see a lot of this. I was threatened with assault once when I called out a rider for passing unsafely- and he had a chiled seat on the rack on his bicycle. I wish we had a solution to this kind of behavior.

@mstone 52163 wrote:

It’s not a mode thing, it’s a selfish human thing; I’ve had as much trouble with joggers running 2 or 3 abreast as with cyclists. I’ve also had pedestrians yell at me for being (legally) on a shared trail. And don’t get people started on ninja crazy ivans.

I have started providing feedback to cyclists passing pedestrians at high speed “in the middle lane,” as I think it’s important for a community to establish acceptable norms, but I don’t really expect that to make a difference given the immense weight of selfishness on all sides in our society.

[83b]

@TrikerOne 52164 wrote:

I wish we had a solution to this kind of behavior.

There are a few workable solutions.

[McChipstah]

@mcgeekgrrl 52102 wrote:

Although I am not disputing that the guy in question is an asshole, I would suggest that we all should at least TRY to refrain from making inflammatory comments. He was rude to you–but calling him an asshole is really not helping anything. If not for the sake of a more civil world, then how about for purely practical reasons, such as self preservation? People have been shot for lesser insults. You just never know in these crazy times who is carrying a gun. (Or even if no gun, who will just stop and beat you up!)

Let’s all avoid calling people names, and just breathe deeply the next time someone cuts you off or startles you. We can all do our part to lessening the incivility we are surrounded by every day.

My $.02

I’m in complete agreement and have done exactly that for 2 years. However this guy is a habitual aggressor, this not being the his first time harassing me and other female runners as he aggressively speeds by and yells at us. At some point, someone needs to take a stand and stop him. I’ve filed a police report and plan on pressing charges.

[rcannon100]

@mcgeekgrrl 52102 wrote:

I would suggest that we all should at least TRY to refrain from making inflammatory comments.

I find the best way to avoid road rage…. is to not engage in it. At all. Ever.

There are assholes out there. And just like our patron saint, Crazy Ivan, we must give this American, er, asshole, a wide berth. 5% of the population (or whatever) are jerks. There are a lot of people out there who are walking bad-moods, for whatever reason. If you respond to them, they are going to respond to you. If you step aside and let them by, they are going to find someone else to respond to.

I’ve been cycling for a long long long (long) time. I dont respond to road rage. At all. Ever. My goal is to get home safely. It’s not to respond to a jerk.

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