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January 14, 2020 at 3:53 pm #1102805
arlcxrider
Participant@bentbike33 196487 wrote:
The Jogger’s Soliloquy (recited to me as I passed her, after ringing my bell, on the Custis near the Bridge to Nowhere):
“Why do you ring your bell when I am clearly in the right lane…(inaudible due to distance)”
To make sure you know I’m passing and you stay to the right.
Unlike the runner who pulled a 180 right in front of me on the W&OD last summer. I dinged the bell and followed it up with a “passing left”–she cut me off anyway, account earbuds… A minor crash, with some road rash as swerved hard, but I could ride away. No damage whatsoever to the other party.
January 14, 2020 at 4:44 pm #1102797Crickey7
ParticipantBells and lights. The two great trail debates that will never be settled.
January 14, 2020 at 4:44 pm #1102796huskerdont
Participant@secstate 196558 wrote:
I got my bell precisely to avoid using my voice!
Don’t get me wrong, I have bells on most of my bikes. I’ll use the bell in certain situations and the voice in others. But especially on the Custis and MVT where it can be pretty bumpy, taking the hand off the hoods to reach for the bell, to me, is more dangerous than a simple “passing on your left.”
January 14, 2020 at 4:48 pm #1102795Tania
Participant@huskerdont 196557 wrote:
To many pedestrians, especially those not familiar with local trail conventions, a bell, especially a loud one, just means “get out of my way.” I use my voice for this reason, but of course, that annoys some people too.
I try (try….) to lead with a pleasantry. “Hi there! Coming by on your left” or such. No one has yelled at me yet but I did have one lady give me the finger.
January 14, 2020 at 5:05 pm #1102987huskerdont
Participant@Crickey7 196571 wrote:
Bells and lights. The two great trail debates that will never be settled.
As well as helment laws and the Idaho/Delaware/Oregon stop.
January 14, 2020 at 6:33 pm #1102994lordofthemark
Participant@huskerdont 196557 wrote:
To many pedestrians, especially those not familiar with local trail conventions, a bell, especially a loud one, just means “get out of my way.” I use my voice for this reason, but of course, that annoys some people too.
Also a lot of trail users have limited English language ability.
January 14, 2020 at 6:38 pm #1102995huskerdont
Participant@lordofthemark 196582 wrote:
Also a lot of trail users have limited English language ability.
And some people can’t hear at all, whatevs, you can’t fix everything.
January 14, 2020 at 9:59 pm #1103019consularrider
Participant@arlcxrider 196562 wrote:
To make sure you know I’m passing and you stay to the right.
Unlike the runner who pulled a 180 right in front of me on the W&OD last summer. I dinged the bell and followed it up with a “passing left”–she cut me off anyway, account earbuds… A minor crash, with some road rash as swerved hard, but I could ride away. No damage whatsoever to the other party.
I’ve always been under the impression that when a runner or walker hears my bell, it is the equivilent of a starters pistol, the signal to go from walking to running (or vice versa) or to change directions. :rolleyes:
February 4, 2020 at 1:59 pm #1104209creadinger
ParticipantThis is uncontroversial….
You: NOAA/GSA
Me: Going glacially slow ~1mph, and carefully so as not to wipe out on your wet, POLISHED parking garage floor. I slowly turn my wheel left to turn, but going slow enough to remain vertical. Next second my wheels slide from under me and I go down hard.
Who is the dumb MFer who decided to polish the goddamn concrete making the floor of the garage?! I’ve ridden on ice. This was way worse! Seriously what the fuck.
NOAA confirms this is a known issue (duh), having me submit incident report. Apparently the real assholes here are GSA.
February 5, 2020 at 2:19 pm #1104243dasgeh
ParticipantMe: having dropped my kid off at school, excitedly turning into the nb Veitch protected bike lane, which is the first of a bunch of dedicated bike infra on my ride. Yay, safety
You: salmoning sb in the nb Veitch PBL, hugged against the cars so I couldn’t see you until…
Me: &#*@(&$@)!!!!!!
Do better, You, do better. You can ride on the sidewalk if you need to head sb on that side of the street.
February 5, 2020 at 2:22 pm #1104244josh
Participant@dasgeh 197972 wrote:
Me: having dropped my kid off at school, excitedly turning into the nb Veitch protected bike lane, which is the first of a bunch of dedicated bike infra on my ride. Yay, safety
You: salmoning sb in the nb Veitch PBL, hugged against the cars so I couldn’t see you until…
Me: &#*@(&$@)!!!!!!
Do better, You, do better. You can ride on the sidewalk if you need to head sb on that side of the street.
Yes, I hate it when people salmon in protected bike lanes. At least if they’re salmoning in the regular bike lane, you can try and make them play chicken with the cars instead of yourself. Yet another reason to just take the lane. Less stuff to dodge.
February 5, 2020 at 5:57 pm #1104251scoot
Participant@josh 197973 wrote:
Yes, I hate it when people salmon in protected bike lanes.
I encounter this very often, especially late evenings. The two most frequent problem areas in my experience have been eastbound bikes and scooters in the PBLs on M St (West End) and Wilson Blvd (downhill from Courthouse to Rhodes).
February 5, 2020 at 11:42 pm #1104262consularrider
Participant@josh 197973 wrote:
Yes, I hate it when people salmon in protected bike lanes. At least if they’re salmoning in the regular bike lane, you can try and make them play chicken with the cars instead of yourself. Yet another reason to just take the lane. Less stuff to dodge.
Come play with me on 1st and Second Ave protected bike lanes in NYC. Nothing like having an e-motorcycle coming at you at 20 mph. 😡
February 6, 2020 at 2:20 pm #1104274bentbike33
Participant@creadinger 197934 wrote:
This is uncontroversial….
You: NOAA/GSA
Me: Going glacially slow ~1mph, and carefully so as not to wipe out on your wet, POLISHED parking garage floor. I slowly turn my wheel left to turn, but going slow enough to remain vertical. Next second my wheels slide from under me and I go down hard.
Who is the dumb MFer who decided to polish the goddamn concrete making the floor of the garage?! I’ve ridden on ice. This was way worse! Seriously what the fuck.
NOAA confirms this is a known issue (duh), having me submit incident report. Apparently the real assholes here are GSA.
I see your problem: 2 opposing bureaucracies each with (barely) plausible deniability. I think your only solution involves studded tires and aggressive acceleration and braking until a singletrack is worn in the polished surface.
February 29, 2020 at 12:09 am #1104849creadinger
ParticipantDear white trash mini-van driver,
SANFORD STREET IN DEL RAY IS 2 WAYS! Do not, in your ghetto-ass 1990s shit-mobile, drive straight at me because you can’t figure which side of the goddamn road to drive on!
I’ve had a lot of close calls in the past few years but this one was one of the scariest… well after my heart-rate dropped back down to a reasonable level I almost wished you had clipped me and stopped because I think stomping on your neck would have made me feel better.
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