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August 6, 2015 at 4:14 pm #1035385
Steve O
ParticipantSaw this on the ATP blog this morning.
This is another of those problem spots for people who ride between DC and Arlington.
http://www.arlingtontransportationpartners.com/pages/blog/how-i-commute-to-work-brendan/August 6, 2015 at 4:39 pm #1035388ShawnoftheDread
Participant@Subby 121575 wrote:
PASSES! Do you call them or do you send them via esp?
If they can’t hear my free hub or feel my presence, that’s on them!
August 6, 2015 at 5:26 pm #1035393bobco85
Participant@Steve O 121635 wrote:
Saw this on the ATP blog this morning.
This is another of those problem spots for people who ride between DC and Arlington.
http://www.arlingtontransportationpartners.com/pages/blog/how-i-commute-to-work-brendan/I agree, although most of my near-collision experiences have occurred from drivers using the right turn lane. Still, I slow down when approaching that crosswalk because drivers just don’t stop when they’re supposed to.
August 6, 2015 at 5:40 pm #1035396S. Arlington Observer
Participant@Steve O 121635 wrote:
Saw this on the ATP blog this morning.
This is another of those problem spots for people who ride between DC and Arlington.
http://www.arlingtontransportationpartners.com/pages/blog/how-i-commute-to-work-brendan/This highlights the importance of knowing exactly where Boundary Channel is located. In this case, based on the writer’s statements, he was in Virginia. While the Park police may have jurisdiction, they can’t apply DC traffic laws. My experience with Park Police is that they aren’t very well trained and not terribly interested in professionalism.
In any event one can’t be charged with violating a District law in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
August 6, 2015 at 5:53 pm #1035401Subby
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 121638 wrote:
If they can’t hear my free hub or feel my presence, that’s on them!
Definitely a feeling of dread when you pass me.
I’m sorry.
August 6, 2015 at 7:09 pm #1035413vvill
ParticipantAugust 8, 2015 at 5:32 am #1035550scoot
Participant@S. Arlington Observer 121647 wrote:
In any event one can’t be charged with violating a District law in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
Does DC law actually require dismounting in crosswalks? I’ve never heard of that.
Does that mean dismounting is required at the other end of Memorial Bridge, at the crossings of the ramp down to Ohio Drive and of 23rd Street? Or that it is legally enforceable at the GWMP / Rte 27 ramp crossings on Columbia Island?
August 8, 2015 at 11:15 am #1035532dbb
Participant@scoot 121771 wrote:
Does DC law actually require dismounting in crosswalks? I’ve never heard of that.
Does that mean dismounting is required at the other end of Memorial Bridge, at the crossings of the ramp down to Ohio Drive and of 23rd Street? Or that it is legally enforceable at the GWMP / Rte 27 ramp crossings on Columbia Island?
According to my reading of the DC Code (caveat – I am not an attorney) it would seem the USPP officer was as wrong on the law as he was on geography.
§ 50-2201.28. Right-of-way at crosswalks.
(a) The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within any marked crosswalk, or unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, when the pedestrian is upon the lane, or within one lane approaching the lane, on which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning.
(a-1) Whenever a vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk at an unsignalized intersection, a vehicle approaching the crosswalk in an adjacent lane or from behind the stopped vehicle shall stop and give the right-of-way to ensure the safety of pedestrians and bicyclists before passing the stopped vehicle.
(b) A pedestrian who has begun crossing on the “WALK” signal shall be given the right-of-way by the driver of any vehicle to continue to the opposite sidewalk or safety island, whichever is nearest.
(b-1) A person on a bicycle or operating a personal mobility device upon or along a sidewalk or while crossing a roadway in a crosswalk shall have the rights and duties applicable to a pedestrian under the same circumstances; provided, that:
(1) The bicyclist or personal mobility device operator yields to pedestrians on the sidewalk or crosswalk; and
(2) Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is permitted.
(c) Any person convicted of failure to stop and give the right-of-way to a pedestrian or of colliding with a pedestrian shall be subject to a fine of not more than the amount set forth in § 22-3571.01, or imprisonment for not more than 30 days, or both. Any person convicted of a violation of this section may be sentenced to perform community service as an alternative to, but not in addition to, any term of imprisonment authorized by this section.
August 8, 2015 at 6:36 pm #1035521scoot
ParticipantThanks for looking that up, dbb.
IANAL either, but the code seems very clear. The exception in b2 must be in reference to the central business district.
I wonder if legal ROW changes at all when there are stop signs facing the sidewalk? (e.g. the ones around the south side of the Lincoln Memorial) Or are those unenforceable like the ones at trail crossings in Virginia?
August 9, 2015 at 3:43 am #1035494GovernorSilver
ParticipantTwo today, while I was in motorist mode:
1. Around 6:30 PM, spotted a cyclist appearing to climb the ramp connecting Telegraph Rd. South and the Beltway to Huntington Ave… in the wrong direction… Dude, I hope you figured out in a hurry that that particular ramp is a bad one to ride on against motorist traffic – going at high speed no less – especially cars exiting the Beltway.
2. Around 11:00 PM on the way back home, driving on that very same ramp coming from Telegraph to Huntington, following another car (at a safe distance). Saw a different cyclist who appeared to be coming from the Telegraph-Eisenhower overpass. He’s riding a dark-colored bike, with no lights. He crosses Huntington to cuts in front of the car in front of me. The car quickly swerves into the left lane to avoid hitting him. I also start to swerve a bit to avoid hitting him. The car behind me starts trying to pass me on the right even though we’re already on the right lane. I brake to prevent the other car from reaching the cyclist.
Wait, that’s actually 3 missed connections.
August 9, 2015 at 3:49 pm #1035509Tania
Participant8:15 this morning.
You: the DB too important to wait to pass an older woman with minimal control of her hybrid cruiser as she passed a pedestrian on the climb to Virginia Lane headed east on the W&OD. You almost made her crash when you passed her on the right as she was trying to get back into her lane after completing her pass of the pedestrian.
Me: the bicyclist you passed a few seconds earlier (calling your pass AFTER you pulled ahead of me) who apologized to woman and pedestrian for your behavior.
I have three words for you: strava fly-bys, jerk.
August 9, 2015 at 4:05 pm #1035479PotomacCyclist
Participant@dbb 121782 wrote:
According to my reading of the DC Code (caveat – I am not an attorney) it would seem the USPP officer was as wrong on the law as he was on geography.
§ 50-2201.28. Right-of-way at crosswalks.
(a) The driver of a vehicle shall stop and remain stopped to allow a pedestrian to cross the roadway within any marked crosswalk, or unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, when the pedestrian is upon the lane, or within one lane approaching the lane, on which the vehicle is traveling or onto which it is turning.
(a-1) Whenever a vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk at an unsignalized intersection, a vehicle approaching the crosswalk in an adjacent lane or from behind the stopped vehicle shall stop and give the right-of-way to ensure the safety of pedestrians and bicyclists before passing the stopped vehicle.
(b) A pedestrian who has begun crossing on the “WALK” signal shall be given the right-of-way by the driver of any vehicle to continue to the opposite sidewalk or safety island, whichever is nearest.
(b-1) A person on a bicycle or operating a personal mobility device upon or along a sidewalk or while crossing a roadway in a crosswalk shall have the rights and duties applicable to a pedestrian under the same circumstances; provided, that:
(1) The bicyclist or personal mobility device operator yields to pedestrians on the sidewalk or crosswalk; and
(2) Riding a bicycle on the sidewalk is permitted.
(c) Any person convicted of failure to stop and give the right-of-way to a pedestrian or of colliding with a pedestrian shall be subject to a fine of not more than the amount set forth in § 22-3571.01, or imprisonment for not more than 30 days, or both. Any person convicted of a violation of this section may be sentenced to perform community service as an alternative to, but not in addition to, any term of imprisonment authorized by this section.
Zero drivers in rush hour stop for pedestrians attempting to cross 19th St at H St NW, next to the World Bank buildings. There is no traffic signal, only a large sign that says drivers must yield to pedestrians in the crosswalk. The drivers come barreling down 19th St so fast, and so close to the car in front, that there’s no chance for a pedestrian to step into the crosswalk at any point, until there’s a long break in the fast traffic.
I posted about this on the Vision Zero crowdsourcing map: http://visionzero.ddot.dc.gov/VisionZero/
August 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm #1035741Terpfan
ParticipantI was having such a good streak with drivers until I met this guy:
[video]https://youtu.be/tmkLM5ZEOi4[/video]
What a tool. Audio didn’t work, but he honks from behind me when I’m taking the lane on 18th St heading toward T to the cycletrack. Then he pulls within inches screaming something about bikes having bike lanes and not being on the road plus a few curse words. All in front of his two kids strapped into the carseats in the back. Good thing DC is cracking down on aggressive drives, SMH. (Bonus feature is the Cabi guy who blazes by me when the light turns green from my left with absolutely no warning.)
Otherwise, it was a great ride.
August 13, 2015 at 1:30 pm #1035746runbike
Participant@Terpfan 122038 wrote:
I was having such a good streak with drivers until I met this guy:
[video]https://youtu.be/tmkLM5ZEOi4[/video]
What a tool. Audio didn’t work, but he honks from behind me when I’m taking the lane on 18th St heading toward T to the cycletrack. Then he pulls within inches screaming something about bikes having bike lanes and not being on the road plus a few curse words. All in front of his two kids strapped into the carseats in the back. Good thing DC is cracking down on aggressive drives, SMH. (Bonus feature is the Cabi guy who blazes by me when the light turns green from my left with absolutely no warning.)
Otherwise, it was a great ride.
Did the lady in the crosswalk also say something to you?
August 13, 2015 at 1:39 pm #1035747Terpfan
Participant@run/bike 122043 wrote:
Did the lady in the crosswalk also say something to you?
No, it would look like it by the video, but she was tossing her hands up that neither of us had moved. I think she had been expecting him to drive through for a bit and then finally walked across.
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