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May 24, 2014 at 1:08 am #1002408
brendan
Participant@PotomacCyclist 86559 wrote:
Why are there so many cyclists going the wrong way on the L and M St. cycletracks? The tracks are clearly marked as one-way, and these people can see bike traffic headed right into them in the narrow track. And yet they still go the wrong way in the cycletracks. It’s not that hard to head one block north or south to go in the other direction.
Funny. I was just about to say that it’s a lazy human nature thing but still…why not be slightly less lazy and do what I did in Clarendon which was to “become a pedestrian” and ride a block two or three blocks on the sidewalk on Wilson (slowly) instead of having to go over to Clarendon Blvd., bike two or three blocks, then head back up to Wilson.
But then I remembered that sidewalk riding is illegal in the central business district in DC!
Maybe more illegal than salmoning in the cycletrack?
Ahem.
May 24, 2014 at 4:41 am #1002416GB
Participant@kcb203 86543 wrote:
Me: Riding east on Pennsylania Avenue approaching 17th, in the lane second from the left preparing to go straight across and past the bollards in front of the White House.
You: A the passenger in a black SUV (probably with Maryland plates) in the second lane from the right, changing lanes directly into me without warning or signal, planning to turn left.
Me: “Watch it,” shouted loudly to get the driver’s attention and prevent him from driving into me.
You: “Oh, why don’t you just shut the f*#@ up.”Not that it should make a difference or that the drivers reaction was appropriate, but I say “Hello” loudly to get people’s attention if I’m not sure they’ve seen me. So far I haven’t been met with any F bombs.
May 29, 2014 at 12:28 pm #1002729MattAune
ParticipantIntersection of doom strikes again.
[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BozBJy6IEAA-T3T.jpg:large[/img]May 29, 2014 at 12:37 pm #1002730dbb
ParticipantMaryland tags?
You were pretty close. Hope you avoided a citation!
May 29, 2014 at 1:17 pm #1002738bobco85
Participant@MattAune 86894 wrote:
Intersection of doom strikes again.
[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BozBJy6IEAA-T3T.jpg:large[/IMG]Looks like they forgot the “turn” part of “Left Turn Only.” I’m glad no one was waiting at that corner.
May 29, 2014 at 1:19 pm #1002740DaveK
ParticipantVince, what did you do now?
May 29, 2014 at 1:20 pm #1002741Terpfan
Participant@PotomacCyclist 86559 wrote:
Why are there so many cyclists going the wrong way on the L and M St. cycletracks? The tracks are clearly marked as one-way, and these people can see bike traffic headed right into them in the narrow track. And yet they still go the wrong way in the cycletracks. It’s not that hard to head one block north or south to go in the other direction.
As crazy as it sounds, I actually think it’s because they don’t realize there is a track running the opposite way a block away. One colleague said to me the other day they would consider riding to work except they don’t want to cross the city with traffic. I point out the cycletracks and they were totally clueless toward either of them.
May 29, 2014 at 2:02 pm #1002750bobco85
Participant@PotomacCyclist 86559 wrote:
Why are there so many cyclists going the wrong way on the L and M St. cycletracks? The tracks are clearly marked as one-way, and these people can see bike traffic headed right into them in the narrow track. And yet they still go the wrong way in the cycletracks. It’s not that hard to head one block north or south to go in the other direction.
I figure it’s some combination of:
– the cycletrack is an area that is safer for cyclists
– it’s not on the road (dangerous) and it’s not on the sidewalk (illegal)
– they’re focused on route efficiency, not route safety
– they’re not thinking that in cities a one way street is usually paralleled by an opposite one way street a block away
– convenience (read: laziness) if their destination is on that street
– they’re texting or talking on their phone, so it’s not like they’re looking to see that they’re going the right way
– they’re thinking, “It’s a cycletrack just like the ones on Penn and 15th. Cycletracks are always two-way.”
– they’re thinking, “Well, cyclists going the correct way can at least see me, so it’s safe.”
– they’re thinking, “Why are all the other cyclists going the wrong way in this contra-flow cycletrack?”
– they’re thinking, “My bike provides me freedom to go anywhere and do whatever I want. I don’t care about signs, lights, or what others think!”
– they’re thinking, “Ooooh, look! Green! I wanna bike there!”
– they’re think- (okay, I need to stop myself, I’m having too much fun with these)@Terpfan 86907 wrote:
As crazy as it sounds, I actually think it’s because they don’t realize there is a track running the opposite way a block away. One colleague said to me the other day they would consider riding to work except they don’t want to cross the city with traffic. I point out the cycletracks and they were totally clueless toward either of them.
Sounds like your colleague needs information and some encouragement. I recommend a bike map of DC and a kick in the rear to get things going
May 29, 2014 at 2:04 pm #1002751dcv
ParticipantMay 29, 2014 at 2:55 pm #1002765Emm
ParticipantYou: the biker going the wrong way in the bike lane yesterday evening on N. Lynn Street in Rosslyn, heading towards Wilson Blvd from the MVT exit.
Everyone in the bike lane: Giving you seriously dirty looks as you make them bike into the car lanes or almost hit the parked cars as they swerve out of your way during rush hour traffic.
Me: watching from the corner of 66 and N. Lynn with a cocked head and confused expression wondering “Is this really happening? If he trying to die or kill other people?”This is especially problematic right now, since the construction between Wilson and 19th means there is no bike lane for awhile on N Lynn–bikes have to take the full lane since its narrow with no room for cars to safely pass. I don’t think there is a way to navigate that stretch safely going the wrong way on N. Lynn.
May 29, 2014 at 3:04 pm #1002767consularrider
Participant@Emm 86931 wrote:
You: the biker going the wrong way in the bike lane yesterday evening on N. Lynn Street in Rosslyn, heading towards Wilson Blvd from the MVT exit.
Everyone in the bike lane: Giving you seriously dirty looks as you make them bike into the car lanes or almost hit the parked cars as they swerve out of your way during rush hour traffic.
Me: watching from the corner of 66 and N. Lynn with a cocked head and confused expression wondering “Is this really happening? If he trying to die or kill other people?”This is especially problematic right now, since the construction between Wilson and 19th means there is no bike lane for awhile on N Lynn–bikes have to take the full lane since its narrow with no room for cars to safely pass. I don’t think there is a way to navigate that stretch safely going the wrong way on N. Lynn.
It was interesting watching a fire truck try to navigate that section of Lynn St in front of the parking garages late yesterday afternoon. The truck slowed to a crawl and just barely had roomto clear between the jersey barriers in the street and the curbside plantings/parking meters.
May 29, 2014 at 10:02 pm #1002841dbb
ParticipantMe: Little (well, aspiring to be smaller) cyclist on Madison between 7th and 14th this afternoon about 1530.
You: Every damned bus in the district double parked, trying to parallel park, just parked and picking up/dropping off in the traffic lane. Between your piggishness and moisture induced stupidity, you (acting as a group) were able to completely shut down the traffic. Bravo! I had to go from one side of the traffic column to the other at least five times.
It would have been better for the air if after you all had completely constipated the roadway (dare I suggest a bus war on cars?), if you would have shut the engines down.
While a tempting enforcement target for the USPP (and easy pickings), I am sure there was a cyclist on Hains Point that slow rolled through a stop sign that was distracting them. Come on guys, this happens every afternoon!
May 29, 2014 at 10:39 pm #1002845Harry Meatmotor
Participant@dbb 87008 wrote:
Come on guys, this happens every afternoon!
Not only is it every afternoon, but it occurs on half the east-west thoroughfares in the central business district. unfortunately, each bus contains roughly 200 concession and t-shirt consuming, ticket holding touristas whose net economic impact is likely thousands (millions?) of times greater than any parking enforcement revenue… I’ve been told there’s a “do not ticket busses” unwritten rule between NPS police and MPDC. No parking and no standing on the north side of Constitution Ave? Sure! But i heard there’s cyclist scofflaws somewhere around East Potomac Park that deserve a good tongue lashing from Officer Friendly…
May 29, 2014 at 11:45 pm #1002849Emm
Participant@dbb 87008 wrote:
You: Every damned bus in the district double parked, trying to parallel park, just parked and picking up/dropping off in the traffic lane. Between your piggishness and moisture induced stupidity, you (acting as a group) were able to completely shut down the traffic. Bravo! I had to go from one side of the traffic column to the other at least five times.
Today was especially ridiculous on Madison. I’ve never seen so many busses parked in the traffic lane. I ended up jumping onto the sidewalk for a block or two to avoid the mess
May 30, 2014 at 1:17 am #1002854Starduster
ParticipantMadison, in front of the museums, right?
I had to navigate that same section by car about 45 minutes earlier (I have this IT repair career that I cannot do by bike, sadly) and regretted it. Much time lost to tour buses completely blocking the travel lane.
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