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May 13, 2014 at 4:15 pm #1001046
ShawnoftheDreadParticipantMay 13, 2014 at 4:22 pm #1001050brendan
ParticipantSpeaking of public shaming…
To the Jerk at work: don’t be a Jerk.
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May 13, 2014 at 4:30 pm #1001053mstone
Participant@brendan 85140 wrote:
Speaking of public shaming…
To the Jerk at work: don’t be a Jerk.
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to be fair, that rack design is the suck
May 13, 2014 at 4:33 pm #1001055ParticipantMay 13, 2014 at 4:48 pm #1001058Participant@brendan 85145 wrote:
True, but it’s no excuse.
It kinda is. Apart from dorks who hang out on a bike forum and discuss the finer points of bike racks, how would a person learn the proper way to use a given rack? Given that the gold standard rack is something like an inverted U which supports the frame at multiple points, how does someone know that this isn’t simply a bactrian U rack, and that it’s actually meant to provide a crappy solution with only one frame support point? I really wish that bike rack standards were better known by those who install bike racks. Or even those who make bike racks. Nothing pains me more than seeing a vendor who sells inverted u racks demoing them with a bike parked perpendicular to one end. Well, some things pain me more. But, sheesh, if even the people selling the darn things don’t know how they’re supposed to be used, how do we expect normal people to know?
May 13, 2014 at 5:01 pm #1001065ShawnoftheDreadParticipantThat rack would make good improvised stocks. I’ll bring the zip ties.
May 13, 2014 at 5:20 pm #1001068bobco85
Participant@mstone 85148 wrote:
It kinda is. Apart from dorks who hang out on a bike forum and discuss the finer points of bike racks, how would a person learn the proper way to use a given rack? Given that the gold standard rack is something like an inverted U which supports the frame at multiple points, how does someone know that this isn’t simply a bactrian U rack, and that it’s actually meant to provide a crappy solution with only one frame support point? I really wish that bike rack standards were better known by those who install bike racks. Or even those who make bike racks. Nothing pains me more than seeing a vendor who sells inverted u racks demoing them with a bike parked perpendicular to one end. Well, some things pain me more. But, sheesh, if even the people selling the darn things don’t know how they’re supposed to be used, how do we expect normal people to know?
From the perspective of a cyclist who has never had a problem figuring out how to lock a bike to a rack and has no experience dealing with bike rack vendors, are wave racks really that confusing? I’m interested to know.
I have a hard time understanding how someone could see this bike rack and lock their bike to it the wrong way, even though I have seen it happen before on a few rare occasions. To me, it seems intuitive when looking at the wave rack pictured before that there is room for at least 4 bikes (one per vertical part) because it resembles the old school bike racks that look like fences with thin slots that you probably wouldn’t be able to fit a mtb tire through. I always thought people that mess up wave racks were jerks, not confused people.
May 13, 2014 at 5:37 pm #1001073Participant@bobco85 85158 wrote:
From the perspective of a cyclist who has never had a problem figuring out how to lock a bike to a rack and has no experience dealing with bike rack vendors, are wave racks really that confusing? I’m interested to know.[/quote]
First page of google: http://www.parkitbikeracks.com/outdoor-bike-racks/inverted-u-bike-parking-racks.html (make sure you look at both pictures). When you have a 6 or 8 bike wave it’s less ambiguous. But with all the wacky bike parking you see these days I don’t think any roughly square bike parking facility is intuitive.
And if the rack is rarely utilized then it’s better at any rate from the cyclists point of view to use it in parallel rather than perpendicularly because that style of rack is fundamentally flawed: you can’t securely lock both wheels and the frame to it without taking your bike apart, and your bike is extremely likely to fall over anyway. Yeah, it reduces the available spots, but I can think of several of those sucky wave racks where I’ve never actually seen a bike parked, and where I’d probably park parallel if I for some reason needed to park there.
Yes, this is actually hard.
May 13, 2014 at 6:00 pm #1001080Subby
Participant@brendan 85140 wrote:
Speaking of public shaming…
To the Jerk at work: don’t be a Jerk.
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To be fair, I don’t use bike racks a whole lot, but I thought that was a two-sided bike rack.
May 13, 2014 at 6:02 pm #1001082Participant@mstone 85163 wrote:
First page of google: http://www.parkitbikeracks.com/outdoor-bike-racks/inverted-u-bike-parking-racks.html (make sure you look at both pictures). When you have a 6 or 8 bike wave it’s less ambiguous. But with all the wacky bike parking you see these days I don’t think any roughly square bike parking facility is intuitive.
And if the rack is rarely utilized then it’s better at any rate from the cyclists point of view to use it in parallel rather than perpendicularly because that style of rack is fundamentally flawed: you can’t securely lock both wheels and the frame to it without taking your bike apart, and your bike is extremely likely to fall over anyway. Yeah, it reduces the available spots, but I can think of several of those sucky wave racks where I’ve never actually seen a bike parked, and where I’d probably park parallel if I for some reason needed to park there.
Yes, this is actually hard.
Meanwhile, I’ve had my cargo bike locked to it perpendicularly for the past 6 months. It’s kind of hard to miss. Also, the markings on the parking lot for the bike parking area are large enough to indicate you could/should park perpendicular. So either he’s a new hire or a jerk. Or a newbie, ok, fine.
Today, I locked my bike to its old friend from the pre-bikerack days, the smoking area sign post
If the obnoxious parking continues after I leave a note and I feel particularly dickish, I’ll take the recommendation of a friend, remove his front wheel, ensure the front dropout remains above the ground, hang the wheel from his handlebars, and lock to the left side of the rack.
Actually I won’t do that (it’s not safe to mess with other people’s bikes). But the recommendation made me laugh an evil evil laugh.
Maybe I’ll just gift him one of my extra cables. Or kickstands…
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May 13, 2014 at 7:58 pm #1001101Tim Kelley
ParticipantMay 14, 2014 at 12:13 am #1001129Participant@brendan 85172 wrote:
Maybe I’ll just gift him one of my extra cables. Or kickstands…
Ok, as fate would have it, the guy came up to his bike just after I started unlocking my bike from the sign post and the conversation naturally opened the way for me to ask the favor of him locking his bike perpendicular to the rack. “Oh, no problem.”
Turns out mstone was right and he’s a newbie.
That was easy.
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May 14, 2014 at 12:35 am #1001131ShawnoftheDreadParticipantBut you were supposed to tie him to the rack so he’s sure to remember! Fail.
May 14, 2014 at 12:43 am #1001134peterw_diy
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 85223 wrote:
But you were supposed to tie him to the rack so he’s sure to remember! Fail.
No, let’s stick with the plan of tying up the Team HeXYZ miscreant.
May 14, 2014 at 1:35 am #1001140dkel
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 85223 wrote:
But you were supposed to tie him to the rack so he’s sure to remember! Fail.
Oh, so *that’s* the proper application of Rule 3!
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