BAFS 2020 teams and rules discussion

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    chuxtr
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    Yeah, I know it’s still summer weather but since it’s now technically fall I thought this would be as good a time as any to open up a discussion thread so that whatever we decide to do for 2020 won’t be a last minute discussion/decision.

    NOTE that this is a DISCUSSION thread, not a DECISION thread. Any and all discussion, criticism (constructive and polite), suggestions, etc. are welcome. But that doesn’t mean that just because it’s discussed that it means that’s what we’re going to do. What we end up doing will depend on a lot of different factors, including (but not necessarily limited to): willing and able volunteers, feasibility to implement, sensibility, understandability (is that even a word?), etc.

    So with that in mind … Some things we’d like to hear from y’all about (but not limited to just these few things):

    1. What did you think of the mileage cap (for team points, not individual points)? Scrap? Keep? Keep but up the mileage?

    2. What do you think about trying to make the teams more “local,” i.e., teammates from the same area? But still trying to “balance” the teams (based on past Freezing Saddles participation) so that no one team is “stacked” with high mileage riders?

    3. Conversely, we could just make team assignments totally random. I think Steve O has done some analysis to indicate that this doesn’t necessarily change the results in terms of differences between teams.

    4. What do you think about smaller size teams? Last year we had 19 teams with 10 riders each. It’s been suggested that Freezing Saddles is more competitive with smaller teams because every team member’s miles (or lack thereof) count more. Is something like 6 riders too small for a team?

    5. Keep the current point system? 10 points for the first ride mile of the day (as an incentive to ride) but 1 point for every mile afterwards.

    Again, it’s not going to be possible to do everything (or maybe even many of the things) that people suggest. But this is your chance to discuss and make suggestions for the above or anything else.

    THANX!

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  • #1102429
    AlanA
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    @Steve O 195878 wrote:

    The new scoring system is already scrambling things in an interesting way. I like it.
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    I also like this new scoring system. The one mile sleaze ride no longer looks appealing. I’m still trying to figure out what’s best. I’m guessing that it will be 7 or 8 for me.

    #1102430
    cvcalhoun
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    @jrenaut 195879 wrote:

    My wife and I have both ridden every day. I have 3 more total miles than she does, and she has 4 points more than me. I am cautiously optimistic that this will increase team competitiveness.

    I’m also hopeful that smaller teams will increase both competitiveness and enthusiasm. (It’s hard for people to be terribly motivated if they figure their miles are just a rounding error in team standings.) We’ll have to see once teams are assigned.

    #1103306
    DrBullet
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    Where IS the new points system stated? I’ve scrolled through 20 pages of this “moderately amusing” thread and am none the wiser!:rolleyes: :D

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    jrenaut
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    @DrBullet 196915 wrote:

    Where IS the new points system stated? I’ve scrolled through 20 pages of this “moderately amusing” thread and am none the wiser!:rolleyes: :D

    Points are determined by cow bingo, that’s why there’s sometimes a delay in seeing your scores on the leaderboard.

    #1103310
    ezbob74
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    @DrBullet 196915 wrote:

    Where IS the new points system stated? I’ve scrolled through 20 pages of this “moderately amusing” thread and am none the wiser!:rolleyes: :D

    Look at the top thread here : http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?15525-BAFS-2020-General-Info-Sticky

    #1103311
    bentbike33
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    @DrBullet 196915 wrote:

    Where IS the new points system stated? I’ve scrolled through 20 pages of this “moderately amusing” thread and am none the wiser!:rolleyes: :D

    Here is the formula (to the best of my knowledge):

    First mile riding bonus for each day you ride =10 points
    + Mile 1 = 10 points; Total 20 points
    + Mile 2 = 9 points; Total 29 points
    + Mile 3 = 8 points; Total 37 points
    + Mile 4 = 7 points; Total 44 points
    + Mile 5 = 6 points; Total 50 points
    + Mile 6 = 5 points; Total 55 points
    + Mile 7 = 4 points; Total 59 points
    + Mile 8 = 3 points; Total 62 points
    + Mile 9 = 2 points; Total 64 points
    + Mile 10 = 1 point; Total 65 points
    + Miles 11, 12, 13,…,N (where N is an arbitrarily large number of total miles) = 1 point per mile; Total 65 + (N-10) points

    #1103322
    Jessica Hirschhorn
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    Looks like 9 miles best bang for the buck, points-wise. My new SLEAZE.

    #1103331
    cvcalhoun
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    @Jessica Hirschhorn 196930 wrote:

    Looks like 9 miles best bang for the buck, points-wise. My new SLEAZE.

    That was precisely the point of changing the points system this year, to get people to do longer sleazes.

    Signed, Freezing Saddles Cabal member

    #1103333
    Steve O
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    @Jessica Hirschhorn 196930 wrote:

    Looks like 9 miles best bang for the buck, points-wise. My new SLEAZE.

    Sort of. The actual formula is a smooth line, so the last 1/10th of a mile 9.9 – 10.0 is actually worth a tiny bit more than 1/10th of a point.

    #1103335
    Jessica Hirschhorn
    Participant

    Okay TEN then.giphy.gif

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    #1103337
    Steve O
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    @Steve O 196941 wrote:

    Sort of. The actual formula is a smooth line, so the last 1/10th of a mile 9.9 – 10.0 is actually worth a tiny bit more than 1/10th of a point.

    Wait! I think I’m wrong about this. I believe it’s actually the last 10th from 8.9 – 9.0 that is worth slightly more. You may return to your 9-mile sleaze.

    #1103339
    Steve O
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    @Steve O 196941 wrote:

    Sort of. The actual formula is a smooth line, so the last 1/10th of a mile 9.9 – 10.0 is actually worth a tiny bit more than 1/10th of a point.

    Wait! That’s not quite right either.

    It’s the 1/10th from 9.4 to 9.5 that’s worth 0.105 points. The 1/10th from 9.5 to 9.6 is worth only 0.095.

    That last 1/100th of a mile from 9.99 to 10 is the worst!! it’s .01 of a mile but only gets you .00505 of a point. The next 1/100th from 10.0 to 10.01 is worth almost twice as much!

    Ride on!

    #1103342
    Dachs6
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    @Jessica Hirschhorn 196943 wrote:

    Okay TEN then.

    16 is a lot less sleazy than 10…and if you live a place that doesn’t have moon rocks, but does use the metric system, 16.1 (ish) is the magical number! And 16 is more than 10, amirite?

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