Bad News from the W&OD Last Night

[mstone]

@baiskeli 53979 wrote:

I’m not ignoring that, I’m wondering how you know these risks, and also whether the risks vary by location.[/quote]

Suggest you study the AASHTO documents on the topic before engaging in further speculation.

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I don’t have a suggestion, but I don’t see how this one works. And I don’t know what you mean by “shortcuts.” Cars are using trails as shortcuts?

If you don’t have a suggestion, then this continued argument seems silly. And, yes, one of the primary purposes of bollards is to prevent a-hole motorists from using MUPs as shortcuts (this would generally be over short segments between disconnected streets). People who make legitimate mistakes don’t generally pose much of a risk (they figure it out pretty quick and drive in a slow panic trying to figure out how to turn around) but the intentional abusers are intentionally reckless.

[baiskeli]

@mstone 53994 wrote:

Suggest you study the AASHTO documents on the topic before engaging in further speculation.

Which ones?

If you don’t have a suggestion, then this continued argument seems silly.

I didn’t consider it an “argument.”

And, yes, one of the primary purposes of bollards is to prevent a-hole motorists from using MUPs as shortcuts (this would generally be over short segments between disconnected streets). People who make legitimate mistakes don’t generally pose much of a risk (they figure it out pretty quick and drive in a slow panic trying to figure out how to turn around) but the intentional abusers are intentionally reckless.

I seriously doubt there are many motorists who use MUPs as shortcuts.

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