2020 scoring system – is it an improvement?

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  • #1105268
    Emm
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    @jrenaut 199309 wrote:

    To give us something to argue about that isn’t proper lighting or ebikes

    Didn’t mean the dislike, sorry!

    #1105276
    jrenaut
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    @Emm 199335 wrote:

    Didn’t mean the dislike, sorry!

    Didn’t you? I see your dislike

    #1105291
    creadinger
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    The cap last year was ridiculous. Me commuting even 4 days/week amounts to >100 miles. Why should I be penalized for doing exactly what FS is all about? You want more points? Ride more!

    This scoring system is definitely preferred, but could be tweaked (again). 20 points for 1 mile? That seems excessive. I rode every day one year. It was ok, but I got to feeling like 1 mile rides were silly so I hardly did any this year. When I did it was to check whether my home maintenance was adequate.

    I don’t really have any useful suggestions, but I do like the idea of having multiple leaderboards for teams and individuals. Like how about a straight up mileage one? I’d like to see where I stack up among the people for whom mileage counts. Other leaderboards would enable people to focus on other things and maybe work their way into top 10 positions etc…

    Whatever is decided, we can’t thank enough the people who put all the time and energy into developing the website, programming the data collection “things”, sorting through all the entries and assigning teams. Thanks to all, your hard work is very much appreciated!

    #1105296
    obscurerichard
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    I’m pretty happy with the system – it seems to have encouraged people to ride more regularly, and it has made it possible for people who don’t crush the competition via riding 300 miles a week to contribute to team performance significantly.

    #1105306
    matteblack
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    I’m matteblack and I approve this year’s point scoring methodology (not that that means anything or anything). Seriously, though, I liked this year’s more than last year’s (my first foray in FS). I, too, set 10 miles as my new sleaze, which I termed a megasleaze (although some days I did a true sleaze).

    Looking forward to next year, I would probably tweak it a bit, but not by much. Which parts would I tweak? Let me sleep on that and answer in November.

    #1105312
    Dachs6
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    @jrenaut 199208 wrote:

    …but, we had a non-competitive competition last year, so the new scoring system hasn’t been an improvement.

    What do we do next year? I’d like to award negative points for days that people don’t ride. I know that the True Meaning of BAFS is up for debate, but for me, riding every day, no matter how nasty it is, is the #1 goal.

    Two points:
    1- the winning team last year won because 7 of their 9 riders rode everyday. The two of us that couldn’t missed less than 5 days each. That wasn’t uncompetitive. Also, the new point system doesn’t make BAFS less competitive, but it certainly appears to incentive riding daily up to 10 miles, where the old system was get in a good day and then rank as much as you can.
    2- I’d support a scoring system that penalizes NOT riding daily, because as you say, the intent of BAFS is to #getoutside daily and #rideyourbike! I’d offer the negative should be some number less than 10, maybe 5? Some of us have to travel and it impacts ability to ride everyday.

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    #1105314
    merlin
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    The +10 for mile 1 is directly equivalent to -10 for not riding a mile, it just recasts the penalty as a reward. Where things currently stand, I believe the top 8 teams are also the top 8 teams by ride days so the scoring system seems to incentivise the right thing; it certainly encouraged me to ride more, more often than I might have .

    #1105327
    DrBullet
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    I like it. There were two days that I just couldn’t ride due to work commitments….and a couple of early short sleazes because I wasn’t aware of the new scoring. But overall, I think it’s a big improvement…especially removing the cap!

    #1105341
    Smitty2k1
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    I like the concept of targeting a certain amount of miles each day, in this case 10/day. That’s about an hour on a bike a day which seems like a “stretch” for someone to do 7 days a week for 10 weeks or so. I think that’s good for a casual competition. Raising this number seems a bit unreasonable as dedicating more than an hour a day to this would be asking a lot. Lowering the daily mileage target seems like it would be too easy to make it a “competition.”

    The only thing I would consider changing would be doing some sort of balancing system to even the teams. Total up your miles for the first two weeks before teams are generated and then try to distribute the high mileage folks and low mileage folks? Probably been discussed in the past as it isn’t a revolutionary concept by any means.

    I will echo what someone else said earlier in this thread, THANK YOU TO THE ORGANIZERS AND FOLKS THAT PUT IN TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE IT ALL WORK!!!!

    Been having a blast this year!

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