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Did you find out what the citizen complaint was? Was it speed or someone going through a red light?

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I shoulda been more clear…I meant road bike races (as opposed to mountain bike.)

Personally I always check my blindspot while driving. I always check while biking too (because not to seems dangerous). To me calling a pass would is equivalent if we honked everytime we passed someone while driving.

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Yeah you’re right cars do signal the car in front they are passing…I’ve always just thought I was alerting people behind me but it cuts both ways. Nevertheless, the way people know a car is going to pass is because they see someone coming up faster than them.

I have a question if anyone knows – do people announce a pass in road races?

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I wasn’t trolling. I was just stating my opinion. Groupthink isn’t very helpful either is it?

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@baiskeli 5516 wrote:

It’s a trick to make you nervous.

Yep, that makes the most sense.

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@baiskeli 5486 wrote:

Maybe it was this:

http://bikepeddocumentation.org/

The thing is he didn’t seem to do it for the people in front of me…it was like he looked at me and was like “there’s one”…could have been just a coincidence, but then why did he have a clipboard and pen out at all?

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Once the child is on the trail it becomes my problem whether I want it or not. I will do everything I can not to hit a child.

Yeah, I completely get this point. But there seems to be this attitude like parents have no responsibility whatsoever…guess what if a kid jumps in front of my bike, it’s the parents fault for being a crappy parent. Ironically, its probably these same moron parents that made it mandatory that all kids have to wear a helmet when they ride a bike.

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I don’t get it. Why is it the attitude that bikers have to alert pedestrians to the fact that there are bikes on a bike trail? And that they are excused from stupid behavior that puts them and their offspring at risk. Obviosuly I am going to do everything I can to not hit a small child, but at the same time this shouldn’t be an issue. How big of a moron parent do you have to be to bring a small child onto a bike trail and not explain to them the potential danger?

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I expect it to happen and I deal with it accordingly. Last I checked, it’s not MY path

Its not their path either. Its a shared path. Letting kids run around on it is dangerous and moronic The other thing I have to point out is that I’m not sure I’ve ever actually seen kids running around on the path.

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Its not their path either. Its a shared path. Letting kids run around on it is dangerous and moronic:) The other thing I have to point out is that I’m not sure I’ve ever actually seen kids running around on the path.

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No, but there is nothing that I can do that will change the behavior other than slow the heck down and call my passes as loudly and authoritatively as possible. [/quote]
Yeah, I completely get what you are saying. I do this too.

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Perhaps I let some incredulity creep into my voice when the brainlessness is on display…sometimes more than others…

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Some of the more parkish areas on the W&OD and MVT are overrun with cross-trail and along-trail kid and dog traffic, especially on the weekends. Fighting against that is like trying to stop a tidal wave with a bucket. Some kid is going to get hurt, and it may be partly the parent’s fault. But I’m not going to be involved.

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I think a cyclist actually died on the trail out there a couple of years ago because they were avoiding someone’s kid.

I think I get what you are saying: basically your position is that it is unreasonable for me to expect that some people on the trail are going to act in a way that even approaches common sense, and therefore the onus is on me to alert them to danger (that being me passing them).

This still seems upside down to me. To me it seems like common sense that if you are on a bike trail (that being a trail where bikes are present) you should act accordlingly (i.e., make sure what your about to do will not result in you getting run over)…and if the general public needs this explained to them then signs should be put up.

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Yeah, well, I wouldn’t expect anyone to call a pass to me if I had headphones on either. On the other hand, I have had people (usually joggers) with headphones suddenly decide to do a U-turn or something, without looking for traffic.

Yeah, I’ve seen joggers with headphones on do that too and it doesn’t make sense to me, they are endangering themselves and others.

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So you are okay if a parent brings their kids onto the bike path and just lets them run around in both lanes?

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How does the fact that are MUTs change anything? You are essentially saying parents should allow their kids to run around on a trail where bikes are. No difference whatsoever. A trail where bikes are present is a trail where bikes are present – they aren’t a playground. Thanks for ignoring my stronger assertions, I’m glad I took out the part about forced sterilization:)

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Well it sounds to me like you are in a certain sense excusing stupid dangerous behavior. I took my nephew out on the trail once and the first thing I told him was how it important it is not to cross over into the other lane. Any adult that lets their kid just run around on a bike trail like its a playground should be forced to take some kind of parenting class that explains to them how to protect their offspring.

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