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@musclys 194684 wrote:

I can’t be alone in saying that, despite having read the previous 14 pages over the past two weeks, I’m a little confused. Did the Freezing Cabal decree a new scoring system, or are we still talking about hypothetical scoring changes?

If the latter, +1 meaningless vote for Subby’s idea.

Yes and also yes

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I agree with the sentiment, TwoWheels, but I think a lower cap would really hurt the game. We put the cap in place to make the standings more competitive. It didn’t work, and it annoyed people, though others found it motivating.

For me, BAFS is a way of getting people excited about riding bikes, even in crummy weather. You should see how little my kids are fazed by being out in bad weather. It’s great. But it’s a balance. I want to promote the way I play the game without alienating the crazy people who ride 300 miles a week. To that end, I think the best thing to do is competitive leaderboards and lots of fun side things, so that everyone can find their niche. Ideally, the high mileage roadie gets a two mile city commuter to go for a long hill ride, and the city commuter gets the roadie to stop in at a few coffee clubs, and we all expand our biking comfort zone a bit and make some new friends.

I’m going to be lower mileage this year than most – last time I rode 80 miles in a week I tore some scar tissue around my repaired Achilles and it hurt to ride for two weeks.

Anyway, I lost my train of thought here, so I’m going to quit while I’m ahead. We should go for a bike ride!

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@obscurerichard 194607 wrote:

I checked the code and it just pulls from the rides table. That table is not restricted by team membership. So if someone joined the Freezing Saddles 2020 team and then visited the authorization page and completed authorization, I think their rides would get recorded and would count towards the Pointless Kids leaderboard if they had a #withkidCodename in the description.

Huh. It probably shouldn’t work that way. Having to be on a team is a safeguard against abusing the scoreboards – team captains can police their own teams. If anyone with a Strava account and a link can post rides to the scoreboards, people can do obnoxious things like have a dozen people join the Slackers team with 3 hours to go in the competition, vaulting them into first place (This is why we don’t have a Slackers team anymore).

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@obscurerichard 194602 wrote:

@jreneaut and I gave contrary answers here, and I think he’s partially right.

I think the last part of the magic is that this person would have to authorize the Freezing Saddles application to read their rides.

I thought we adjusted all the leaderboards to only pull rides from people who are on real teams, so that if you aren’t on a team you only show on the Friends of BAFS leaderboard. But it’s kinda late on Sunday night of a big 4 day weekend, and I’m too tired to go check the code.

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@Brownws 194595 wrote:

Thanks,

Can a “Friend of BAFS” tag her codename with rides? My spouse isn’t interested in registering but would like to help the little one rack up points.

Currently, no. It wouldn’t be impossible to do it that way, but it introduces some complexities that I’m not sure we’re prepared to manage. I’ll think about it a bit and see if I can come up with a solution.

An alternate plan for you is to recruit your spouse. YMMV, but I got MY spouse to compete by introducing her to the Beerneuring contest.

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@secstate 194550 wrote:

The advantage of the green zipper pulls was that they were very distinctive and hung nicely from saddles, not only zippers

The REAL advantage of the green zipper pulls is that people think they’re ski tags and ask you about skiing and you can say, “Well, actually, it’s a winter biking competition…”

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@Brownws 194540 wrote:

Thanks, that wouldn’t be too much of a hurdle though. I loaded on an old phone this morning and it looks like it will load rides over WI-FI

I think it’s best we do not collect any personal information from anyone under 13 – Congress in their infinite misunderstanding of the internet passed some laws that really heavily restrict what you are and aren’t allowed to collect and by doing so have protected approximately zero children but made sites, even huge ones, just disable accounts for children (this is why so many websites make you click “I’m over 13”). Since I am aware of these laws but do not know how to follow them, unless someone else is an expert, I think it’s best we don’t pull data for kids. That was the point of the Pointless Kids – it was using the parent’s account and a made up name for the kid so we don’t get into this mess.

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@Brownws 194525 wrote:

Thanks!

She rides on her own bike (with me or her mom) about 6 miles a day. So assuming last year’s rules, would that give her team 100 (or 110) points before any other riding is considered? Presumably she would acknowledge that or some lower level when registering and could be put on a team (ideally with me — do you guys do “baggage”) that would know she may not max out the point every week.

She’d need her own Strava account to be on a team. A better option would be the Pointless Kid Leaderboard, where she can have her miles tracked without a separate account.

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I keep reading this as cat-free and thinking “well, seems kinda mean, but maybe if you have allergies?”

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Anyone who votes for the first two gets a 500 point penalty

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@josh 194268 wrote:

11 minutes of spring isn’t going to bother anyone.

Have you MET anyone?

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Sorry, didn’t mean to dislike the post, can’t seem to undo it.

Anyway, there are basically two parts to the BAFS code – the part that does the synching with Strava and all of that, which hozn wrote and is totally incomprehensible but amazing, and the leaderboard screens, which anyone with basic Python/Flask/SQL/HTML skills should be able to create or update.

Javascript, aside from JQuery, is bad and should be avoided at all costs.

All of this to say you should be able to help out with a lot of the basics. Maybe you won’t be able to help out with weather data (I’ve been working in Python on and off for 10 years and I can’t figure that stuff out), but lots of the parts of the website that could use some help are much less complicated.

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I propose that a small group of longtime participants – a cabal, if you will – gets together nightly. We review each ride and assign points based on how many points we want to assign. All of RCannon’s rides are worth -10 unless he involved a puppy. Bob James gets one point for each 500 miles. Rides to breweries get 100 bonus points.

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@americancyclo 128170 wrote:

…What about Modolo?…

Better late than never

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@DismalScientist 193515 wrote:

Methinks you took my comment more seriously than it deserved. It was merely intended as snarky pedantry.

Come on, man, how long have I known you? Aside from the occasional advice on frugal cycling, do you post anything else?

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