Woman Hit by Cyclist on Four Mile Run
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Tim Kelley.
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June 21, 2012 at 7:35 pm #943790
jnva
ParticipantThank you for the thoughtful reply. I am not trying to vilify the man who hit the woman, that’s not the point I was trying to make.
I will say this, and make it my last comment on this subject.
I do have a 100% success rate in avoiding hitting pedestrians on the trails. That doesn’t mean I never make mistakes. I would hope that everyone else strives to do the same, but in my experience that is not what I have seen. It’s mostly racing and making dangerous passes that I am referring to. And if you refuse to slow down when you pass a pedestrian, thats when accidents happen and that is what I THINK based on my observations is what happened here. But you all are right that I could be wrong about that.
June 21, 2012 at 8:04 pm #943791DismalScientist
ParticipantJnva,
I think we have all seen badly behaved cyclists on the trails. The participants in this forum tend to not be those stereotypical bad cyclists and likely neither was the older gentleman involved in the tragedy. I think that this difference in perspective lead to the flamewar.
As someone involved in past flamewars, I think it’s often best to make your point and let is stand without further explication. Internet fora tend to be bad devices for changing peoples’ minds.
June 21, 2012 at 8:06 pm #943792MCL1981
Participant@jnva 23063 wrote:
I conceded defeat in this discussion a couple pages ago, but it’s hard to stop replying when I am personally attacked. Don’t mean to troll, sorry.
If you don’t want people to “personally attack you”, then you probably should think before you post irrational and absurd proclamations.
I based my statements on this accident on the official statements of police and witnesses. You base yours on… some load of total BS that you made up in your mind.
June 21, 2012 at 8:27 pm #943798jnva
Participant@MCL1981 23072 wrote:
If you don’t want people to “personally attack you”, then you probably should think before you post irrational and absurd proclamations.
I based my statements on this accident on the official statements of police and witnesses. You base yours on… some load of total BS that you made up in your mind.
This is a troll post if I ever saw one. Do you really want me to reply?
June 21, 2012 at 9:01 pm #943803Mark Blacknell
Participant@dasgeh 23057 wrote:
You forgot that you always behave perfectly in every circumstance, every day, never having an lapses.
And you expect everyone else to be perfect 100% of the time too.
Practically perfect in every way, one might say.
June 21, 2012 at 9:06 pm #943804rcannon100
ParticipantA Troll…
“Troll” is an inadequate term to cover all the kinds of misbehavior it’s used to describe. However, since it’s used by a great many people who don’t register fine distinctions between trollish types, it’s likely to go on being used to describe all of them.
A Troll Is:
One who can’t understand that it’s his manners/behavior/language that get him into trouble, rather than his opinions.
A person who encounters a lively conversation on an interesting subject, and can’t think of anything more interesting to do with it than screw it up.
Someone who disrupts a thread so thoroughly that even inattentive users notice.
Someone who disrupts a thread so repeatedly that even the most easygoing users no longer believe it was done in innocence.
One who wants more attention, respect, power, sympathy, etc., than his or her natural gifts and accomplishments would normally bring — so far, that describes just about everyone — and who addresses this disparity by trying to gain those things via less acceptable means, often involving repetitive “scripted” behavior.
A Hardcore Troll Is:
Someone with an excessive, even obsessive focus on a particular interpersonal transaction, who tries to force, provoke, suborn, or otherwise manipulate forums and comment threads into enacting that transaction.
People who are literally incapable of distinguishing rhetorical form and style from content. They experience their own opinions as something like a cross between a reification and a state of being, and they have an abnormal degree of self-identification with their opinions like like the one hoarders have with their possessions. They do not discuss their opinions; they possess, inhabit, and enact them, and will defend them as though they were defending their own body parts. What’s odder still is that these opinions appear to all be second-hand; they are often oddly assorted; and they’re never particularly transgressive or otherwise remarkable. I believe this variety of trollishness is an organically (neurochemically?) based cognitive impairment that may have been around for a long time, but wasn’t noticed until the internet came along.
June 21, 2012 at 10:57 pm #9438165555624
Participant@rcannon100 23064 wrote:
I am a vegetarian. I think all people who eat dead birds are evil. Every time I have a drink with y’all I am secretly despising you. Only those people who enjoy tofurky for Thanksgiving are righteous. (But Vegans…. Vegans are just crazy).
veg·e·tar·i·an/ˌvejiˈte(ə)rēən/ Old Native American word describing a lousy hunter.
June 21, 2012 at 11:12 pm #943823Tim Kelley
ParticipantThanks everyone for keeping this thread civil (well, at least more civil than some heated debates in the past). I think it’s run it’s course and we’ve had some good discussion. We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, and we’ve beaten a dead horse.
If no one objects, then I’m going to close this thread. Sound good?
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