while we’re talking tires…good compromise between gravel and slick?

[Raymo853]

@DrVoidberg 138468 wrote:

I know some continental tires have small holes that serve as wear indicators. Looks like that could be the case here?

I hope not, this tire has maybe 500 miles on it.

[hozn]

@Raymo853 138478 wrote:

I hope not, this tire has maybe 500 miles on it.

Yeah, these are wear indicators. I have them on my tires too (and I think the package mentions them). The fact that they are still visible means the tire is not worn out yet!

I am pretty happy with my tires too. I put the Schwalbes back on for the commute since I was doing some pre-commute group rides and the Specialized are slower rolling. But I am gonna ride them this week off-road a bit to get comfortable with these in the Spruce Knob race later this summer.

[peterw_diy]

FYI, Jan Heine recently blogged about riding gravel on non-knobby tires. Naturally it’s largely an ad for Compass but still, as usual, a good read: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2016/04/11/gravel-racing-on-compass-tires/

[Raymo853]

My 500 mile estimate may be a bit low.

Post air-ing down my pressure was only 30 in the Roubaix. Felt fine and just a tad softer than fine yesterday during my commute. The Bonti AW3 is at 40 and that feels perfect. (BTW, I think my digital gauge is consistent bit not accurate, I assume the real psi values are 20% higher)

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[sethpo]

I’m going to put in a plug here for the Schwalbe G-One gravel tires on the “gravel vs slick” debate. I’ve got a few hundred miles on them now including tow path, Cabin John single track, and the Rough Roubaix short course.

I flat out love them primarily for how smooth and fast they are on pavement. I’ve commuted on them and barely noticed a difference between the 35 gravel tire and the 28 Pro One road tire. They are just great and obviously do well off road although I’ve not tested them in mud or wet conditions.

For Rough Roubaix I ran them about 60 psi since it was dry and there was a lot of road and was very pleased with my time.

They mounted easily on the rims (tubeless), hold air, and seem like they are durable…but we’ll see about that.

Here’s video of Rough Roubaix gravel sections

[Raymo853]

When I need new tires, I think I will try the Schwalbe G-One tires. Just wish they offered it in a 30 or 32. Oh man, S does offer this one as a 30, http://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/racing_tires/s-one That may be the perfect tire for my Colossal.

Currently, I have just too many tires to justify buying any more. I have five CX tires I love with worn tread but no carcass damage. And three Bonti AW3 28c tires that are nearly new, great tires except for not being tubeless and being a bit narrow. I want to use all of these tires up before getting any new ones.

[hozn]

@sethpo 138548 wrote:

I’m going to put in a plug here for the Schwalbe G-One gravel tires on the “gravel vs slick” debate.

Can I just say, I love this thread!

The G-One looks very interesting. I wonder how it compares with the 38mm Trigger … (@sethpo, do you have any experience on the Trigger?)

The S-One also looks interesting for a faster tire, though it looks basically equivalent to the 30/32 Specialized Roubaix Pro 2BR, so not sure I feel compelled to try that. The Schwalbe One tires (non-Pro, anyway) are very durable in my experience. I rode those on a good mix of dirt/gravel/pavement (I think I posted about it above) and they held up great.

Speaking of the Specialized Roubaix, I rode the Roubaix Pro 2BR tires today through the CCT/Lake Fairfax detour. It’s been awhile since I’ve run such small tires there and I wouldn’t say it’s the most confident choice, but it worked fine. I wanted to get a feel for how they handle on some looser gravel and gain some confidence with their durability. Trying to figure out whether to plan to ride these or the Triggers (in either case, assuming a relatively dry course) for that Spruce Knob gravel race. Right now I’m leaning toward the Triggers as it looks like it is predominantly gravel and I think that the bigger casing would greatly increase confidence [and speed] on descents and any rocky singletrack/double-track. I also don’t feel like the larger Trigger tires are any slower when riding smooth hardpack, and only marginally slower riding on pavement.

I was very slow on the singletrack today. Mostly just enjoying the beautiful morning, but also wanting to overdo it on these tires. I stopped to pump up my tires a quarter mile in, as I was bottoming out on the rocks (I dropped the pressure before entering the trail to something I would guess was around 35-40psi). Pumped them back up closer to 50/60psi. After that it was a lot less comfortable, but I don’t want to dent my rims [again].

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[sethpo]

Those S-Ones looks great as a daily commuter around here as well but they do seem to be about $30 more each than the G-Ones. I was a bit disappointed in the Pro Ones durability. My rear tire lasted about 3k miles. I never rotated them though. I’ve moved the old front to the rear wheel and am now running a new Pro One on the front w/ a spare ready to go when needed.

Have you guys seen these new one-way tubeless stems from MilKits? This looks like a really cool system that allows you to remove the valve core and add sealant w/o losing air.

http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/04/27/milkits-innovative-valve-is-the-answer-to-all-of-our-tubeless-problems/

Lyzene also is coming out w/ a tubeless pump like the Bontrager (which I ended up getting and love so far).

http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/04/gallery/sea-otter-fabric-tools-milkit-tubeless-system-and-more_402848
http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/03/10/tpe16-lezyne-adds-tubeless-fat-bike-options-with-new-pressure-over-drive-and-micro-floor-drive-xl/

Edit for Hozn: Nope, I’ve no experience w/ the Triggers and maybe I’m being unkind in saying 3k isn’t a reasonable life for a rear tire…

I wish I could go to Spruce Knob but I’ll be in Vegas. I’m hoping the G-Ones are good for Hilly Billy but I guess that will depend on conditions. I definitely plan on getting the X-Ones for cross season.

[hozn]

That MilKits system does look pretty useful. Especially for a wheelset that might not get everyday use (on the daily riders I feel like I’m ready to change/rotate the tires by the time the sealant is gonna be running low).

I did see that Lezyne was doing a high-volume pump. I imagine I will eventually get one as it could save some hassle. So far everything has still seated with a floor pump, but the set of 23mm Pro Ones I put on my new road rims were tricky. The tires fit fairly loosely (easily installed w/o tool = “loose” for me in tubeless world), required a few applications of sealant on the beads before there was enough “catch” to pull the beads out of the center channel.

[runbike]

@Raymo853 138558 wrote:

When I need new tires, I think I will try the Schwalbe G-One tires. Just wish they offered it in a 30 or 32.

I believe they do offer it in a 30, but I’m not seeing it on the schwalbe tires site.

This bike (which I’m currently obsessed with) ships with 700x30C G-One’s

[Raymo853]

This is the cut on my Spec Roub 2BR tire. It was seeping sealant on Saturday. I added one cup Sunday morning before the Rough Roubaix and it sealed up quickly and has not seeped anymore since.

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[hozn]

I have a few like that too now; noticed a wet spot on the side of the tire so may have one that oozed a bit of sealant. In general they seem pretty durable so far, but I switched to the 38mm tires so I can keep up better off-road for tomorrow’s early AM LFP ride.

[vvill]

@Raymo853 138558 wrote:

Currently, I have just too many tires to justify buying any more. I have a five CX tires I love with worn tread but no carcass damage. And three Bonti AW3 28c tires that are nearly new, great tires except for not being tubeless and being a bit narrow. I want to use all of these tires up before getting any new ones.

I’m in the same boat, except most of my CX tires are barely even worn, and I have more than five. I kind of want to try the recently released Clement tubeless gravel tires but I don’t ride enough to justify it at this point.

[Raymo853]

I put these two worn cx tires on my commuter/gravel bike, replacing horrid riding heavy City type tires. The ride jn this morning was so nice, they feel faster rolling, are way lighter, and ride smoother. Of course they do not have puncture belts nor reflective sidewalls.

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[AFHokie]

I’m still riding the stock tires that came with my bike Giant P-RX2’s & while after ~2200 miles I can’t say I have any complaints I’m wondering if I’d see any appreciable gains with a different tire such as the Schwalbe G-One’s or S-One’s.

I’m a little afraid for my bank account…I’m finding it a slippery slope to a new wheelset.

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