When will planning for Freezing Saddles start?
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December 1, 2015 at 9:17 pm #1042000
schvin
Participanti’m excited for #BAFS this year!
December 1, 2015 at 10:58 pm #1042010cvcalhoun
Participant@Amalitza 128837 wrote:
Try it now. (turns out rcannon made me an editor on it last year for handling late registrations, so when I followed Tania’s links, I had the ability to tell it to “resume collecting responses”.)
Got it, thanks! I’ve created my own form for this year (with some minor improvements over last year’s form), but have not included the geographical questions. I’ll add those if we really want to have teams based on geography, but I’m opposed.
December 1, 2015 at 11:10 pm #1042011Steve O
Participant@cvcalhoun 128864 wrote:
Got it, thanks! I’ve created my own form for this year (with some minor improvements over last year’s form), but have not included the geographical questions. I’ll add those if we really want to have teams based on geography, but I’m opposed.
It might be worth leaving in the zip code question. That way we will have it if we need it.
Also, FS is a regional game. In the past people from far away states have wanted to join. As much as they may be nice and even strongly committed riders, FS is really for people who can attend group rides, coffee clubs, happy hours and the FSLNHPP. That is unlikely for those in Chicago or Minneapolis…or even Kiev.December 2, 2015 at 12:00 am #1042012hozn
Participant@vvill 128828 wrote:
– I would check with hozn/jrenaut to see if they could just do a form on the website? Maybe integrate it with the Strava token/login. That way it could easily be reused in future competitions and the data used for team assignments, etc. could be stored in similar fashion. And you can only sign up if you’ve already got your Strava account working.
I really wanted to make that happen for this year, but I’ve been working overtime at work since Aug, so have had no time for any extracurricular software development. Heck, I am barely finding enough time to ride my bike.
This isn’t a huge undertaking, but it won’t happen this year unless someone [else] wants to do it.
From a data perspective, we need the following pieces of information for every registrant:
– Name
– Strava ID
– Forum ID
– (And eventually) Team AssignmentWe also need to know the handicap if we want to provide for awards based on sandbagging. I was not involved in the algorithm for team assignment last year; I have no idea how that happened or any opinion on the effectiveness of last year’s system. I don’t recall it being significantly different than previous years.
@vvill 128828 wrote:
– Slacker team 4eva. It’s not that slackers don’t care about the riding in BAFS and the competition, they just don’t necessarily want to be competing in a team. Because it’s a team game, when you join a team you are actually making a commitment of sorts (even if it’s friendly/casual). And anyone who has clicked through some of the stats/categories would see that we have some pretty awesome queries going on that Strava does not easily give you (integrating with weather data, for one).
I have personally put myself on the slacker team in the past primarily because (1) there’s value in adding myself to the leaderboard from a software development/testing perspective and (2) I’m wise enough not to actually play the game for real again
But I think vvill hits the nail on the head here. It’s nice to allow people to be involved in the social aspect (and individual accomplishment awards??) without making the commitment to ride for a team.
I’m not sure how many more years I’ll be interested in doing development or maintenance work on the backend, but I’m happy to do it again this year. There are many things I would like to improve; from a professional perspective, the app is pretty embarrassing, so maybe I’ll take some time to improve that this year.
My ultimate goal with the codebase is to make it possible for people in different parts of the country/world/universe to organize their own cycling competitions with their own rules/team frameworks/metrics. dcv had asked about using this for his workplace last year; it’d be nice to see a generic competition framework realized.
December 2, 2015 at 12:04 am #1042014cvcalhoun
Participant@Steve O 128865 wrote:
It might be worth leaving in the zip code question. That way we will have it if we need it.
Also, FS is a regional game. In the past people from far away states have wanted to join. As much as they may be nice and even strongly committed riders, FS is really for people who can attend group rides, coffee clubs, happy hours and the FSLNHPP. That is unlikely for those in Chicago or Minneapolis…or even Kiev.Okay, Zip Code is back, and consularider is out unless he comes back from Kiiv. Other geographic information is out unless there is a need for it. Slackers team is in, but only for veterans. Requirement to disclose last year’s miles for those who participated last year is in. Newbies need not disclose usual riding unless they have over 120 miles per week.
Once we have consensus on these issues, and I’ve tested the form with select people to make sure it doesn’t break, I’ll ask Amelitza to add the URL to the sticky.
December 2, 2015 at 12:04 am #1042015jrenaut
Participant@hozn 128866 wrote:
I’m not sure how many more years I’ll be interested in doing development or maintenance work on the backend, but I’m happy to do it again this year. There are many things I would like to improve; from a professional perspective, the app is pretty embarrassing, so maybe I’ll take some time to improve that this year..
So if anyone knows a young Python developer with time on his/her hands, perhaps you might suggest they take part.
December 2, 2015 at 12:15 am #1042016hozn
Participant@jrenaut 128869 wrote:
So if anyone knows a young Python developer with time on his/her hands, perhaps you might suggest they take part.
Yeah, and give me their name too so we can maybe hire them — and then I will have more free time!
December 2, 2015 at 1:25 am #1042018Mtansill
Participant@cvcalhoun 128868 wrote:
Okay, Zip Code is back.
Yay. Because what was said about this being a social thing is very correct for me. I’m hoping for a Maryland team, because I would never be able to make it to Virginia or even DC on a regular basis. And I know how crazy competitive you Virginians are. You don’t want me on your team.
…Busy recruiting more Marylanders…
December 2, 2015 at 1:46 am #1042019Rod Smith
ParticipantI’m volunteering to captain the Slacker team this year and I’m inviting Eric Williams, Chris Randall, Cyndi Janetkzo, Chris Shue, Seth Pollack, Vincent Ng, Kurt Mickelwait, Shawn Dread, and Tim Vandish to join my team. Sorry Tim, Pete, Jeff, Hozn, Amy. Y’all didn’t make the cut. Ride lots and good luck on making the Slacker team in 2017!
December 2, 2015 at 2:04 am #1042020Megabeth
Participant*raises hand meekly* But, I was injured and had surgery and couldn’t participate even on the Slacker team in 2015. Lemme on the slacker team this year…pleeeeease.
December 2, 2015 at 2:08 am #1042021Rod Smith
ParticipantOK, you can have my spot.
December 2, 2015 at 2:08 am #1042022Greenbelt
ParticipantLooking forward to this year’s festivities!
– the original slacker, I think.
(For the record, I think I invented the contentious slacker team concept. I didn’t want to get burned out trying to do too many miles for the team. So it was sort of designed for not-too-bright folks like me who didn’t want to be tempted to ride stupid miles and get themselves hurt! Or people already recovering from injuries who didn’t want to go beyond safe limits trying to keep up with their teammates.)
December 2, 2015 at 2:10 am #1042024Megabeth
Participant@Rod Smith 128876 wrote:
OK, you can have my spot.
Nooo, I want you to be the Cap’n to my Tennille…
December 2, 2015 at 3:16 am #1042029cvcalhoun
Participant@Rod Smith 128874 wrote:
I’m volunteering to captain the Slacker team this year and I’m inviting Eric Williams, Chris Randall, Cyndi Janetkzo, Chris Shue, Seth Pollack, Vincent Ng, Kurt Mickelwait, Shawn Dread, and Tim Vandish to join my team. Sorry Tim, Pete, Jeff, Hozn, Amy. Y’all didn’t make the cut. Ride lots and good luck on making the Slacker team in 2017!
Chris Randall is ineligible, unless he gets back here from Kyiv. Just sayin’.
December 2, 2015 at 3:53 am #1042031KelOnWheels
Participant@Steve O 128865 wrote:
It might be worth leaving in the zip code question. That way we will have it if we need it.
Also, FS is a regional game. In the past people from far away states have wanted to join. As much as they may be nice and even strongly committed riders, FS is really for people who can attend group rides, coffee clubs, happy hours and the FSLNHPP. That is unlikely for those in Chicago or Minneapolis…or even Kiev.OH FINE. I’ll just be over here in the corner…
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