When will planning for Freezing Saddles start?

[cvcalhoun]

@Steve O 128833 wrote:

I don’t have the form, but somewhere in my computer at home I have the output from the form, so I should be able to provide the information that we collected from last year. Hang tight, and I will dig that up tonight.

Thank you!

[consularrider]

@rcannon100 128829 wrote:

The consensus is that there is a slacker team. There must be a consensus to change that.

I am interested in joining the slacker team.

I’m worried that half the usual participants have said that they want to be on the slacker team this year. That means they’re going to win based on sheer numbers.

[rcannon100]

@consularrider 128835 wrote:

I’m worried that half the usual participants have said that they want to be on the slacker team this year. That means they’re going to win based on sheer numbers.

(1) This is a consensus driven process
(2) There is consensus for a slacker team
(3) A slacker team is for people who do not want to compete in the overall competition, but who do want to participate in the reindeer games. They do not have a team score. There should be no team score showing up on the score board.

[Anonymous]

@cvcalhoun 128824 wrote:

Yes, this is why I’d like to find someone who has a copy of a prior year’s form. The original doesn’t show what questions were asked.

Try it now. (turns out rcannon made me an editor on it last year for handling late registrations, so when I followed Tania’s links, I had the ability to tell it to “resume collecting responses”.)

[vvill]

Multiple slacker teams!! :rolleyes:

[dkel]

@rcannon100 128829 wrote:

The consensus is that there is a slacker team. There must be a consensus to change that.

I bet we could get a consensus to put SteveO on a team by himself.

For my own part, I don’t want to be on a slacker team, but I may have to be because of the slow recovery of my knees. I want to be a part of the shenanigans (like last year’s photo challenge) but I may not be able to put in the miles I would want to put in, especially in support of a competing team. I busted it last year to keep up and do my part, and would hate to let down a team this year (especially if anyone looked at my stats from the last two years, and had any kind of expectation based on that).

What about a team of alternates? That could encompass low- or questionable-mileage people that are otherwise reliably participating, and could be used to replace wash-outs or “wierdos” (as rcannon calls them) who disappear. Riders from the alternates team would be exempt from expectations, as they would be replacing no-shows, and a low-mileage alternate is better than a no-show.

[Steve O]

@rcannon100 128829 wrote:

The consensus is that there is a slacker team. There must be a consensus to change that.

I’m not going to fall on my sword re: slackers, but I do think it should be limited to FS veterans only. We also need to make it clear that you don’t have to ride miles like dcv to be an asset to a team. Nor even every day. Last year a number of people requested the slacker team because they thought they were going to have to ride 1000 miles or something. No. Everyone is welcome in Freezing Saddles. Everyone, that is, who wants a little motivation to get on their bike in the winter–even if that means they are now riding 2-3x week instead of barely at all. That was the original intent, and it has worked for many. Just ask Justin Antos.

I still have no idea what the point of a slacker team is.

[dkel]

@Steve O 128840 wrote:

I’m not going to fall on my sword re: slackers, but I do think it should be limited to FS veterans only. We also need to make it clear that you don’t have to ride miles like dcv to be an asset to a team. Nor even every day. Last year a number of people requested the slacker team because they thought they were going to have to ride 1000 miles or something. No. Everyone is welcome in Freezing Saddles. Everyone, that is, who wants a little motivation to get on their bike in the winter–even if that means they are now riding 2-3x week instead of barely at all. That was the original intent, and it has worked for many. Just ask Justin Antos.

I agree with this, especially the idea about FS veterans.

@Steve O 128840 wrote:

I still have no idea what the point of a slacker team is.

This is because you are a robot.

(Seriously! I should stop picking on SteveO! I love the guy, but these opportunities are too good to pass up!)

[Steve O]

@vvill 128838 wrote:

Multiple slacker teams!! :rolleyes:

I have a good idea. Let’s make ALL the teams slacker teams. Each person is assigned to a slacker team based on some handicapping scheme. Each slacker team will have about the same number of players, so it’s sort of even.

[jrenaut]

@vvill 128828 wrote:

– I would check with hozn/jrenaut to see if they could just do a form on the website? Maybe integrate it with the Strava token/login. That way it could easily be reused in future competitions and the data used for team assignments, etc. could be stored in similar fashion. And you can only sign up if you’ve already got your Strava account working.

This would be possible but likely not in time for this year’s competition. I have a little more time this year than last, but this is a pretty serious undertaking.

[dkel]

@jrenaut 128844 wrote:

This would be possible but likely not in time for this year’s competition. I have a little more time this year than last, but this is a pretty serious undertaking.

I’m confused: this implies that you haven’t been working on it all year long.

[vern]

@rcannon100 128829 wrote:

The consensus is that there is a slacker team. There must be a consensus to change that.

I am interested in joining the slacker team.

Alex, I’d like Tautologies for $1000, please!

[jrenaut]

@dkel 128845 wrote:

I’m confused: this implies that you haven’t been working on it all year long.

I’d lie, but since the project is open source you can check my commits.

[dkel]

As always, the #BAFS thread wins the prize for best (and most ridiculous) thread of the year.

Even after the ELF spectacle.

[wheelswings]

@rcannon100 128836 wrote:

(1) This is a consensus driven process
(2) There is consensus for a slacker team

Um. Really?

I think you and I both have some background in the art of consensus-building…multi-day tortured-but-empowering Quaker-style discussions and suchlike. But here I’m seeing a different sort of process. Not sure what you’re smoking in your pipe, but maybe I should try it too.

That said, I think it’s great if we can find a way to be inclusive and welcoming to all sorts of riders in an affiliated Friends-of-Freezing-Saddles group.

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