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[dasgeh]

@GovernorSilver 140966 wrote:

That’s why I’m pondering replacing the hub with the red-band (premium) version – it reportedly has better seals, bearings, etc. than the version that came on my Uptown 8.

Wouldn’t you want to get it replaced under warranty regardless, so you have something not-worthless to sell?

[GovernorSilver]

@dasgeh 140976 wrote:

Wouldn’t you want to get it replaced under warranty regardless, so you have something not-worthless to sell?

Yeah, that’s the quandary. Warranty doesn’t expire for another year.

I doubt Papillon will replace the bargain Nexus 8 with the premium one for free (under warranty).

[dasgeh]

@GovernorSilver 140977 wrote:

Yeah, that’s the quandary. Warranty doesn’t expire for another year.

I doubt Papillon will replace the bargain Nexus 8 with the premium one for free (under warranty).

Have you asked them about (1) removing broken nexus 8; (2) putting in premium one; (3) submitting broken one for warranty replacement, which you’ll then have new in box to sell?

[Harry Meatmotor]

@GovernorSilver 140966 wrote:

It used to be the 6th speed, which started happening around the 2nd month of commuting on this bike.

Now it’s the 6th and 7th speeds that are both misbehaving.

The behavior seems to follow whatever speed I settle on as my cruising speed.

That’s why I’m pondering replacing the hub with the red-band (premium) version – it reportedly has better seals, bearings, etc. than the version that came on my Uptown 8.

That sounds like the axle pawl sticking – does it make a clunk a minute (or, a short time) after shifting into one of those gears? I believe unity is 5th gear, so if it’s happening in 6,7,8, those ratios all run on the outer ring gear set/ring gear 2.

The last time I looked, the full ring gear unit was available from shimano, but that was several years ago. Also, IIRC, the red band versions steps up to nicer roller clutches very similar to those used in the Alfine units, which make more of a difference than just upgraded seals.

A remnant of the 3-speed SturmyArcher days: pop the fill cover, squirt some 3-in-1 or sewing machine oil, shift through the gears, and if that doesn’t fix it, don’t spend anymore time on it; just replace it. Just not worth the time, unfortunately.

[GovernorSilver]

@Harry Meatmotor 140980 wrote:

That sounds like the axle pawl sticking – does it make a clunk a minute (or, a short time) after shifting into one of those gears? I believe unity is 5th gear, so if it’s happening in 6,7,8, those ratios all run on the outer ring gear set/ring gear 2.

The last time I looked, the full ring gear unit was available from shimano, but that was several years ago. Also, IIRC, the red band versions steps up to nicer roller clutches very similar to those used in the Alfine units, which make more of a difference than just upgraded seals.

A remnant of the 3-speed SturmyArcher days: pop the fill cover, squirt some 3-in-1 or sewing machine oil, shift through the gears, and if that doesn’t fix it, don’t spend anymore time on it; just replace it. Just not worth the time, unfortunately.

The clunk will sometimes happen after the shift into one of those gears. It was intermittent before, but seems to be happening with greater frequency of late.

You have given me yet another reason to consider the upgrade to the red band version.

I’m supposed to bring my Renegade back to Proteus for the complementary tuneup within a few weeks, so I’ll be riding the Uptown 8 and its Nexus 8 while the Renegade is at the shop. I’ll try calling Papillon and see if they can take care of this before that time. As dasgeh says, it wouldn’t hurt to ask Papillon if they would replace the hub with the red band, and for how much. Well, maybe I should describe the issue to them first, and see first what they’ll do about it. The last time I had an extended phone conversation with someone at Papillon, he brought up rebuilding the hub or something extreme like that.

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