vvill’s N + 1 Pointless Prize

[TwoWheelsDC]

@vvill 135568 wrote:

Part of me wants to tear down my road bike and switch over my ENO wheel from my hybrid/pit SSCX bike (which hardly gets ridden anyway). Probably wouldn’t be <15lbs but anything <17.5 would be lighter than any of my other bikes. Force/Red cranks? What chain ring is that?

So other than some wheelset flexibility to move between different FG bikes, is an ENO hub preferable to an eccentric BB?

[vvill]

@TwoWheelsDC 135600 wrote:

So other than some wheelset flexibility to move between different FG bikes, is an ENO hub preferable to an eccentric BB?

Based on my experience so far with only one EBB, and one ENO wheel – yes.

ENO will slightly change your BB drop, effective chainstay length, wheelbase, tire clearance, and brake position if that matters (unless you’re on disc brake with the ENO disc brake adapter thing).

EBB will slightly change your BB drop, effective chainstay length, front-center, seatpost height, AND stack/reach which I think is more annoying if you are sensitive to fit changes. I’d say EBB has an edge if you do take your rear wheel out a lot though, and/or if you don’t plan on changing gearing often, and/or run a rear brake. It makes sense on my SSCX for example because it doesn’t have a ton of clearance and with any belt drive you wouldn’t likely change gearing much and won’t need to compensate for chain stretch – so it’s definitely a plus to easily put the wheel back in the same place with the same tension.

The ENO is easier/quicker to adjust tension IMO. Since an EBB is getting larger as you secure it (against the inside of the BB shell), it actually gets more eccentric and that seems to change the tension (after you think you’ve got it figured out) as you tighten it. Annoying with something like a belt drive where you’re trying to get a very specific tension. Whereas with the ENO once you get it where you want you can tighten it down and that’s about it (not that it’s not a little fiddly – I use an adjustable wrench in one hand and a hex in the other).

One weird thing with the ENO is the chainline/spacing (I assume it was originally designed for MTBs).

I feel that track/sliding drops are still the best overall solution especially if you don’t take your rear wheel out much. In my case I deliberately chose to have 41/16 and 39/18 on my ENO equipped bike so that I don’t need to change chains or make too many adjustments, and those two gearings are about perfect for casual road/commuting and SSCX respectively. (Also, the rear triangle on that bike is designed for road tires – it’s only by luck that the position of the ENO lets me run CX tires with a little clearance.)

[Steve O]

Okay, I’ll play even though I have no hope of winning.
Here’s my n=1 bike. Fuji touring bike I use for almost all my riding, set up for commuting and all around transportation with fenders, rack and kickstand. Wearing the “winter” wheel with dynamo hub. Had the drive train swapped out for 1×9 (with outside chain guard) last year for simplification reasons (less stuff to break). Shimano two-sided pedals (platform one side; spd the other). Works for the commute, all my transportation and even got me through Kill Bill. The Brooks saddle is actually a dark, forest green–not black–which I like better with my frame.
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[trailrunner]

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26 February

I used to do a lot of triathlons. For the first couple of years, I just used one of my road bikes. I never really felt like I was at a disadvantage, but when I could afford it, I finally bought this Litespeed Saber in June 2002. I picked it up on a Friday and raced it at Spud that weekend. After that, I rode it for another decade in many races and on training rides. I didn’t make too many changes to the setup: new aerobars, new seat, new headset, but that’s about it. I haven’t done a triathlon in a couple of years, but I have way too many great memories of riding this bike in races to think about selling it.

I hadn’t ridden this bike in a while, but took it out for a short ride this morning. The path was muddy, so now I gotta wash it.

n=7 for trailrunner

[Anonymous]

I have no shot at this (especially since I N – 2’d in 2015), but I support the premise of ogling more bikes than I will ever own, so I might as well make my own contributions.

2/26 N=1
The bike: Diamondback Airen carbon frame outfitted with Ultegra Di2.

Someday I will look back at this bike as the first step in the ultimate destruction of my retirement savings.

I got her in December 2014, after dramatically increasing my time on bikes over the previous couple years, ultimately doing my first century that fall, and deciding it was maybe time to upgrade and try out one of those fancy carbon fiber models. She came slightly used and dramatically discounted, which of course means I wound up spending all the money I had planned to spend and getting a much nicer bike than I otherwise would have. I’m now totally spoiled and will probably wind up spending a lot more money on every other bike I ever buy in my life…

The ride: The Indian Head Rail Trail starts about a mile from my office, so I use my lunch time to go for rides. Today is theoretically my day off, which means I didn’t worry about being back on typical work day schedule and got an extra couple miles in compared to normal. I was tempted to ride further, but I do have a bit more work to get done today, and I also knew I was being lulled into false complacency by the outbound tailwind. I was correct: inbound was just a teeny bit more challenging.

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[Steve O]

N=2
This is what I call my “toodler” bike. 3-speed Western Flyer with basket and old-style rack.
Not the most comfortable or even the perfect short-trip, errand-running bike, but I love it for its pure vintageness. Here it is with my laundered shirts on the handlebar (I actually carry them in my hand while riding).
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Until last spring it had the original 1962 Sturmey Archer, internally geared, 3-speed hub. Then one day it catastrophically failed. 50+ years of service and some sort of metal fatigue inside toasted it.
Miraculously, Phuoc at Bike Club found an identical 1962 Sturmey Archer to replace it.
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My favorite feature on the bike is this sticker from Virginia Tech. It’s gotten more worn, so the date cannot still be made out. But when I first got the bike, the sticker was more intact, and it says, “Bicycle Permit Expires 8-31-73.” I find it pretty cool that some student was riding this bike around the campus more than 40 years ago.

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[ShawnoftheDread]

N=6, Motiv Duet tandem. I bought this from someone in the next neighborhood for $50 last summer. New tires, cables, and shifters and it rides quite nicely, if somewhat tank like.

My oldest daughter won the bar mitts as a barrier prime racing tandem cx with me in December.

[Raymo853]

Got another to give me a score of 8. My 2003 Indy Fab Club Racer is back up and running, this time as single speed cx thing. https://www.strava.com/activities/503922657.

[Subby]

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2/27/2016

N=4

https://www.strava.com/activities/503645850

2014 State Bel Air 2.0 set up as single speed. I switched out drops for bullhorns and I love them for this bike. It’s steel and pretty heavy but not terrible and it’s fun to ride around the neighborhood. Fun fact: the longest ride I have ever done (205 miles) was on this bike (albeit set up as fixed gear)!

[Raymo853]

@Raymo853 135808 wrote:

Got another to give me a score of 8. My 2003 Indy Fab Club Racer is back up and running, this time as single speed cx thing. https://www.strava.com/activities/503922657.

This IF is not going to stay this way. The chainline is just off a bit, causing a lot of popping. The front brake performance a (Shimano R450) is so bad. The rear ENO hub is cool, but lead to the tire rubbing on the brake caliper, necessitating it’s removal. Plus I forgot how easy it is to get the wheel off center with this thing. (See photo below)

I am just going to hold to my original plan for this: light commuter and touring/randonneur bike. The parts sitting around for this build: R700 cranks with 34/46 rings, XTR M965 rear derailleur, ultegra 6600 front, a 11-34 XT 9 speed cassette, a R600 rear caliper, 9 speed Ultegra shifters, Haynes CX Pro front disc caliper, Shimano 3N72 front generator disc hub based wheel.

I am missing a good disc fork and generator lights. Have an older steel Salsa disc CX fork that is ok, but plan to buy a Lynskey https://lynskeyperformance.com/lynskey-endurance-disc/

An no, once I rebuild and ride this I will not submit it for another +1. Nor for the old blue bike that will be redone as a SS CX bike.

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[hozn]

@Raymo853 135813 wrote:

I am missing a good disc fork

I have a Whisky No 7 (straight 1 1/8 alloy steerer) that is heavily used and a bit nicked up, but was gonna put it up for sale for $50 on DCUBM; you can have it for $40 if you want. — Or someone else on forum can if by “good” you meant something actually nice/new

[Raymo853]

@hozn 135814 wrote:

I have a Whisky No 7 (straight 1 1/8 alloy steerer) that is heavily used and a bit nicked up, but was gonna put it up for sale for $50 on DCUBM; you can have it for $40 if you want. — Or someone else on forum can if by “good” you meant something actually nice/new

I may be interested. I assume disc and carbon lower part, correct? How nicked is nicked? Like concern one might be structural and start a failure?

Oh, and does it have fender mount eyelets?

[trailrunner]

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28 February
I bought this Parlee Z4 in June 2010. It was the most money I spent on a bike, and worth it all. I had it built with an Ultegra group, CK hubs and BB, Velocity rims, Cane Creek 110 headset, Thompson seatpost. It’s a very nice ride.

n=8 for trailrunner

[hozn]

@Raymo853 135816 wrote:

I may be interested. I assume disc and carbon lower part, correct? How nicked is nicked? Like concern one might be structural and start a failure?

Oh, and does it have fender mount eyelets?

It is just superficial. There is some scoring of at top when I rode it without lower bearings (I hadn’t realized they had fallen out when I was installing headset — very embarrassing.) The folks at Whisky said it was fine because it is aluminum up there. And a couple of rock nicks, as pictured. Just paint. Yes to islets.

[americancyclo]

N=3

Friday’s commute straight in to the headwind.

I got this bike as a present from my wife and at a huge discount off MSRP while working at a now defunct bike shop in Georgetown. It’s distinct color is from the demo models of 2009 and has earned it the name “Grimace”. It’s 20lbs and rides pretty well but has been showing its age recently.
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