There goes the neighborhood – Pentagon City
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August 9, 2012 at 12:30 pm #948177
jrenaut
ParticipantI thought WMATA was ADDING bike parking, not taking it away? Was that only inside the DC limits?
August 9, 2012 at 12:33 pm #948178Jason
ParticipantI see this all the time on a smaller scale. Trucks parked blocking the cutouts, rude consession stand runners downtown blocking the coutouts in the already ballard congested areas, construction crews shutting off an entire corner downtown. Goes on and on. I suppose its natural for people who dont bike to not think like a bicyclist; but I can still hate the F@ckers.
August 9, 2012 at 12:35 pm #948179mstone
Participant@jrenaut 27788 wrote:
I thought WMATA was ADDING bike parking, not taking it away? Was that only inside the DC limits?
The individual bike lockers have mostly been a disaster–very underutilized, relatively expensive, and space hogs. They’ve been putting in more traditional bike racks and experimenting with secure bike parking which can handle more bikes and offer far more flexibility (so you aren’t tied to one station).
August 9, 2012 at 12:44 pm #948181jrenaut
Participant@mstone 27790 wrote:
The individual bike lockers have mostly been a disaster–very underutilized, relatively expensive, and space hogs. They’ve been putting in more traditional bike racks and experimenting with secure bike parking which can handle more bikes and offer far more flexibility (so you aren’t tied to one station).
Ok, that’s a little better.
The rest of the stuff in the post still sucks, though.
August 9, 2012 at 1:35 pm #948191chris_s
Participant@jrenaut 27788 wrote:
I thought WMATA was ADDING bike parking, not taking it away? Was that only inside the DC limits?
The Hayes Street project will (when completed) double the amount of bike parking at Pentagon City and some of it will be covered.
August 9, 2012 at 1:46 pm #948194chris_s
ParticipantTake Action!
Report the sinkhole in the bike lane using the Report a Pothole online form. Basically ALL pothole filling in the County is complaint-based. If nobody reports it, it doesn’t get addressed.
Call (703-228-3392) or email the project manager for the Hayes Street project with your detour suggestion. The more staff hear from us about problems the more likely they are to avoid those problems on future projects.
Call the DES Call Center (703-228-6570) to report the faded bike lanes on Eads.
I got nothing on the Joyce Street project – it’s being run by the Federal Highway Administration and the project doesn’t appear to have a web page or any other contact information.
August 9, 2012 at 1:54 pm #948198PotomacCyclist
ParticipantAll the road work is making life difficult for all users of the road, unfortunately. But I’m hopeful that the process will be worth it. The mid-block crosswalks on Hayes St. could help to slow down cars. It should also resolve the problem of pedestrians trying to play Frogger while darting across Hayes St. to move between Pentagon Centre and the mall. The problem is that they sometimes try to time their scamper just as a cyclist passes by, i.e., me. I almost got knocked over by a pedestrian who was playing this game of Frogger jaywalking. (It’s pretty easy for a pedestrian to knock over a cyclist from the side. It doesn’t take much force at all.) I’m not sure why they didn’t use the well-lit pedestrian tunnel.
Re the Joyce St. project under 395, did they remove the standpipes on the west sidewalk? I rode through there yesterday and didn’t see any. I don’t remember if the standpipes were only located on one of the sidewalks. When that project is complete, it will be much more pleasant to ride from Pentagon City to Columbia Pike and back. Though cyclists can use Joyce St., cars go pretty fast under 395. I really don’t like riding on the road at that section. Improved lighting will also make that route safer for pedestrians. There’s a homeless guy who hangs out in the dark right next to the sidewalk. I don’t know if he is aggressive or not, but I’m always taken aback when I pass right by him in the dark while running along the sidewalk.
Even after the current work is finished, be prepared for more. Crews will move onto the other sections of Hayes St. next, until that entire block is renovated. Over on Joyce St., there could also be construction obstacles in the near future. The Pentagon Row courtyard will be redone at some point. I imagine there will be some heavy equipment on the road and bike lane at that time.
A few blocks over, Crystal Drive is also undergoing renovations, to convert it to two-way use. It will be easier to bike south from Long Bridge Park in the future. But for now, the only option is to ride on the wide sidewalk or ride over to Eads St. along 12th St.
August 9, 2012 at 1:59 pm #948199PotomacCyclist
Participant@chris_s 27805 wrote:
I got nothing on the Joyce Street project – it’s being run by the Federal Highway Administration and the project doesn’t appear to have a web page or any other contact information.
The only info I’ve found is the project notice site: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=07e0246e32dd4725316b0473635ad6b6&tab=core&_cview=1
The bid documents in PDF form have very detailed plans of the project. I don’t remember if the PDFs are located on the linked page or on a similar FedBizOpps.gov webpage. It’s very difficult to browse through the PDFs. The diagrams are tiny so you have to zoom in. Even then, it’s difficult to read the numbers and labels. I’m aware of the general overview of the project, but I’m still not clear about the details. The sidewalks are supposed to be widened, but without altering the overpass supports, I don’t know how they can fit them in without squeezing everything into the available space. I think the finished design will be an improvement for cyclists and pedestrians, but I don’t have a good idea of what it will really look like.
August 9, 2012 at 2:41 pm #948213CaseyKane50
ParticipantChris,
Thanks for the contact information. I have reported the pot hole problem and the bike lane markings to DES and also reached out to the project manager for the Hayes Street project. DES has logged both issues and the project manager will be meeting with the contractor to discuss the issues I raised. She has promised to get back to me with a response and any actions that will be taken.
August 9, 2012 at 3:32 pm #948224KLizotte
Participant@CaseyKane50 27825 wrote:
Chris,
Thanks for the contact information. I have reported the pot hole problem and the bike lane markings to DES and also reached out to the project manager for the Hayes Street project. DES has logged both issues and the project manager will be meeting with the contractor to discuss the issues I raised. She has promised to get back to me with a response and any actions that will be taken.
As a Pentagon City resident, thanks for doing this.
August 9, 2012 at 4:04 pm #948235chris_s
Participant@PotomacCyclist 27810 wrote:
The sidewalks are supposed to be widened, but without altering the overpass supports, I don’t know how they can fit them in without squeezing everything into the available space. I think the finished design will be an improvement for cyclists and pedestrians, but I don’t have a good idea of what it will really look like.
They’re narrowing those crazy-wide lanes down to 10′-10.5′ and shrinking the median to make space for a much wider sidewalk (10′ clear for the vast majority of the length) and classy streetlights. Also no more death-trap standpipes.
Hopefully the narrower lanes and the fact that it won’t look like a *&!^ing freeway anymore will slow drivers down a bit for those of us who would like to ride in the street. The wider sidewalks will definitely be an improvement for those of us who would rather bail to the sidewalk there.
August 10, 2012 at 10:27 am #948300PotomacCyclist
ParticipantThe WashCycle posted a link to this picture today:
https://twitter.com/FakeDarrenBuck/status/233531872917979136/photo/1/large
I think it’s near the main entrance of the Pentagon City mall, on Hayes Street.
August 13, 2012 at 1:10 am #948436Mike Hirrel
ParticipantCan anyone tell me the safest way to get from the Mount Vernon bike path up Army Navy Drive to the Arlington Ridge? It seems that no matter what I try cars are trying to run me down making either left or right turns. I’ve lived in Arlington for 30 years now, but am new to Pentagon City, and I have never before experienced this level of difficulty biking on Arlington roads. You dudes obviously know more about this area than I do, so I’m hoping you have an answer. Many, many thanks, Mike Hirrel
August 13, 2012 at 2:05 am #948437KLizotte
Participant@Mike Hirrel 28081 wrote:
Can anyone tell me the safest way to get from the Mount Vernon bike path up Army Navy Drive to the Arlington Ridge? It seems that no matter what I try cars are trying to run me down making either left or right turns. I’ve lived in Arlington for 30 years now, but am new to Pentagon City, and I have never before experienced this level of difficulty biking on Arlington roads. You dudes obviously know more about this area than I do, so I’m hoping you have an answer. Many, many thanks, Mike Hirrel
Just sent you a PM.
August 13, 2012 at 11:08 am #948446CaseyKane50
Participant@Mike Hirrel 28081 wrote:
Can anyone tell me the safest way to get from the Mount Vernon bike path up Army Navy Drive to the Arlington Ridge? l
Mike, I am not sure where on Arlington Ridge you are trying to get to, but here is a route from the Mount Vernon Trail.
Head west on the Four Mile Run Trail, at Glebe Road (trail splits to the east and west), head west to Meade Street and cross Glebe Road (push Walk button and wait for light to change). Proceed up Meade Street to 28th Street and make a left turn onto 28th Street. Stay on 28th Street until you hit Army-Navy Drive. Make a right on Army-Navy Drive. You then can turn right onto 23rd, 22nd or 20th Street depending on where you want to be on Arlington Ridge Road (caution, these streets have fairly steep hills). Alternatively, you can continue up Army-Navy Drive to Lynn Street, which connects up to Arlington Ridge Road. -
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