The most tempting salmon

[dkel]

@jrenaut 96001 wrote:

Well, sure, but it can be really hard to buy a computer without Windows already installed.

Not if you buy a Mac. :rolleyes:

[hozn]

Wow, this thread seems to have really gone off topic, but I love where it’s headed. Linux desktops FTW. I will admit to being a lazy Linux user at home, though; I was spending too much time with the care & feeding of my previous (Gentoo) OS and threw in the towel for something that just works: Ubuntu. I get sufficient distro engineering challenges at work.

(Wait, VMWare is free!? You mean Player?)

[jrenaut]

@dkel 96003 wrote:

Not if you buy a Mac. :rolleyes:

I have no idea why anyone would want to do that.

hozn wrote:

(Wait, VMWare is free!? You mean Player?)
Uh, yeah, whatever it is that lets me run Windows from my CrunchBang machine without actually installing it.

[nicefixie]

Is this the official salmon thread now? If so, M nw (22-25) is a hot-spot for people to salmon. I see the convenience of salmoning here just gets a bit crowded in the bike lane..

[cyclingfool]

Nope. Sorry, this is the official Linux fan thread now. Get your own thread. :p

[baiskeli]

@cyclingfool 96017 wrote:

Nope. Sorry, this is the official Linux fan thread now. Get your own thread. :p

My attempt to make it the official thread about grilled fish failed miserably, but I’m glad someone is happy.

[jrenaut]

@baiskeli 96039 wrote:

My attempt to make it the official thread about grilled fish failed miserably, but I’m glad someone is happy.

I think that didn’t work because I thought your fish looked a little dry.

[baiskeli]

@jrenaut 96041 wrote:

I think that didn’t work because I thought your fish looked a little dry.

Fine, don’t have any then. More for the rest of us.

[rcannon100]

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[dkel]

@dkel 96003 wrote:

Not if you buy a Mac.

@jrenaut 96007 wrote:

I have no idea why anyone would want to do that.

Because some people don’t want to have a reason to know what this means:
@jrenaut 96007 wrote:

Actually, it’s only good for going to the website of your favorite Linux distro and finding the URL for the right torrent download.

[jrenaut]

@dkel 96053 wrote:

Because some people don’t want to have a reason to know what this means:

If you value your soul less than a little convenience, be my guest

[dkel]

@jrenaut 96054 wrote:

If you value your soul less than a little convenience, be my guest

Rule 5 is for bikes, not computers.

(I will admit, though, that Apple is an evil empire.)

[jrenaut]

Yeah, I honestly can get why people like Apple. My wife has one, for example, which is nice for me because she goes to her brother for tech support, not me. I think the cycling parallel is kind of like Linux:Apple::fixed:27 speed. Is it easier to go anywhere on a bike with a bunch of gears? Sure. But for some people, does a fixed gear just speak to your soul in a way an expensive carbon racing bike never could? Of course.

[hozn]

Well, I think that analogy to fixed-gear falls apart a little because the Macbook is the defacto laptop for the fixed-gear crowd!

For me, Linux is actually an extremely practical choice, being a software and systems engineer that works 100% with Linux systems at work. Also, I understand enough about the operating system to be able to diagnose problems at a deeper level; in some ways the systems are simpler than Windows (or MacOS) when you get beneath the hood (the irony of the great complexity that goes into making something simple to use).

But there is an element of ideology behind it. I like freedom (as in speech) and I’m willing to pay — or suffer a little inconvenience sometimes — to support that. I love the idea of using tools that have been built, for the most part, by volunteers. It’s a great community and testament to how lots of little unorganized efforts can turn into something greater.

MacOS is a beautiful operating system. But it’s not free. Apple has built their OS on those hundreds/thousands of little volunteer-created tools but decided that they wouldn’t give away what they had built on that foundation. That’s fine; the licenses don’t require it. But it’s why MacOS doesn’t scratch any ideological itches for me.

I suppose there’s an aspect of “soul” here, but it’s more about ideology for me. Maybe the better analogy for me would be the people that believe in buying made-in-USA frames or paying the premium to shop at the LBS. Of course, I do neither of those things, but I think the analogy is fine. And the “purest” bike I own is definitely my carbon road bike — so simple in its focus, and the bike on which I have both had the most fun and endured the most suffering.

And, yeah, salmoning sucks.

[baiskeli]

@dkel 96003 wrote:

Not if you buy a Mac. :rolleyes:

There you go Macsplaining again.

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