The bike at the Barnes Dance

[Judd]

@scoot 190411 wrote:

IOD is technically just a long LPI. So it must be legal in Virginia for bikes in the crosswalk to proceed on an LPI, but not bicycles in the street? We should get it legalized for street riders too.

I think that falls under the provision of having all of the same rights and responsibilities as a pedestrian when using a crosswalk on a bike.

If it’s a state thing you’ll have to find a Republican to introduce it. Almost every safety bill died in committee this past year on a party line vote.

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[Judd]

@smb9600 190415 wrote:

Or I should say I just went through it yesterday & noticed it because of this conversation! [emoji41]

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It might be Shirlington and Kenmore. I’m hardly ever that way these days.

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[zsionakides]

@Judd 190417 wrote:

It might be Shirlington and Kenmore. I’m hardly ever that way these days.

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Shirlington/Kenmore has beg buttons much of the time, though sometimes at random times the pedestrian light comes on its own.

[Steve O]

@scoot 190411 wrote:

At IOD westbound, if I am intending to take a left on Ft Myer Drive, I will sometimes walk south into the crosswalk while Lynn has the green, position myself in front of the left lane of the I-66 exit, then start riding on the LPI. By doing so, I eliminate both the conflict with drivers violating the temporary no-turn-on-red arrow as well as the conflict of turning across oncoming Custis Trail users. Plus I reach the intersection at Fort Myer and Lee long before any vehicles get close.

That’s a good strategy. When I’m going to make a left at Ft. Myer, I go on the LPI from the trail and ride across all the lanes of Lee Highway to get to the left lane. If I did what you do, then I might potentially decrease conflict with oncoming crossers, or at least keep from confusing them.

[scoot]

@Steve O 190438 wrote:

That’s a good strategy …

Who ever would have thought that bicyclists might fare better by staying to the left of drivers making right turns?

[dasgeh]

@Judd 190397 wrote:

I’m having trouble thinking of an intersection in Arlington that has an LPI. I jump the gun at the ones in Alexandria before remembering I’m not in DC frequently.

Pretty sure many in Clarendon do. I think some in Ballston do too, closer to the Metro. Memory is hazy because I haven’t been going there because of the BQ construction…

[dasgeh]

@Judd 190416 wrote:

If it’s a state thing you’ll have to find a Republican to introduce it. Almost every safety bill died in committee this past year on a party line vote.

The existence of LPIs aren’t a state thing, but bikes going with them from the roadway is. Though I’ve heard directly from an ACPD officer that he would be shocked if a cyclist in Arlington every got a ticket for doing this. ACPD could make that official policy.

[dasgeh]

@scoot 190441 wrote:

Who ever would have thought that bicyclists might fare better by staying to the left of drivers making right turns?

At Saturday’s BAC, it was mentioned that Arlington has money to start the study for the IoD Endgame next fiscal year (though it’s just a little next in FY2020, and a lot more in FY2021). They are thinking tunnel or bridge. Time to speak up for the Offutt solution.

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