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June 16, 2012 at 10:45 pm #943248
KLizotte
ParticipantMy best advice is to go smaller rather than larger. You can more easily make a bike “bigger” than smaller. A too large bike will cause problems in terms of comfort and handling. If it doesn’t immediately feel like your hands want to be on the hoods when riding then you are stretching too far. I found this out the hard way. I highly recommend getting a professional fitting first so you can be told what your ideal frame size is then you can narrow down your choices.
June 16, 2012 at 11:10 pm #943250KelOnWheels
ParticipantToday was my first time riding drop bars ever. My hands had no clue where they wanted to be!
I did notice what a chore it is to make my bike go compared to the new ones I rode!
June 16, 2012 at 11:36 pm #943251Greenbelt
ParticipantI was in my LBS last week and a guy came in who was about 6′ 8″. Jill was going to try some tricks, but very difficult to get perfect fit without a custom frame!
My (average sized) father was in the shop yesterday and she was working with him on the trainer. He had always resisted, assuming bike fitting was hocus pocus. Now he’s a believer! Really, customers should insist on a thorough bike fit session, with time on the trainer and at least a little time watching you ride outside, even with less expensive bikes. You can get to 90 percent of perfect in less than an hour usually, which is way better than what I see a lot of people riding. It’s not that hard! A full pro fit can range from 1-4 hours easy, and isn’t cheap, but can be extremely helpful for anyone who rides a lot.
June 16, 2012 at 11:46 pm #943252eminva
ParticipantKel, I can’t remember how tall you are, but for the last three years I have been riding a 54 cm road bike (non-WSD). I am 5’5 1/2″, 30-ish” inseam. From my fitting, I found out that is way too big of a frame for me. I am now on a 51 cm WSD and much happier. It really affects how the bike handles.
I agree that the selection is more limited in WSD frames, especially for touring and cross bikes, but I think I would make fit the paramount consideration. Make sure you specify that you want a bike that can run a rack and fenders (if you want that). That could get most of what you want even if you have a plain vanilla road bike.
I agree about the steel frames. Miss my Jamis Eclipse.
Liz
June 17, 2012 at 12:11 am #943253KelOnWheels
ParticipantI’m 5’7″ and change, PBH is 32.25″. felt pretty comfy on the WSD 56 and 57cm bikes and like Graeme Obree on the Vaya (or maybe Rocky the Flying Squirrel).
Yup, I definitely don’t want to spend money on a bike that doesn’t fit!
It was good to get on a few different bikes today and feel what “too long” and “probably good” felt like.I was a little surprised that the shop had no WSD steel road/touring/hybrid type bikes (think they might have had some cruisers). So perhaps they are not the shop for me, and that is OK.
June 17, 2012 at 1:59 am #943261KLizotte
ParticipantI called a lot of LBSs ahead of time to make sure they had the frame/size I wanted; I’m super small so the selection was small and this saved me a lot of time. Unfortunately I bought a bike that was one size too big for me, sold it a month later, and got one that fits a lot better. Expensive lesson learned. The difference in frames was only an inch in the horizontal top tube and width of the handlebars. Doesn’t sound like much but it does make for a big change when you’re only 5′ 2.25″ tall.
Make sure the handlebar width is no more than your shoulders (handlebars can be easily swapped out if necessary) otherwise you’ll have control issues. If you find it difficult to take one hand off the bars to signal then there is a fit problem. This happened on my too big bike – I thought I was just uncoordinated.
If you have a hard time controlling/reaching the brakes when going downhill then there is a fit problem. My hands were always sore on the too big bike and hills were downright scary.
Numbness is also a sure sign of a fit problem but these don’t tend to show up right away.
If you have reached middle age and work a desk job, you are probably not as flexible as the 20 somethings. A riser stem helps a lot in this department because it means you can reach the handlebars without bending quite so much.
Also, if you’re planning on commuting and carrying lots of stuff, the super light bikes won’t be of much use. They are race horses, not pack mules.
June 17, 2012 at 3:27 am #943265Certifried
ParticipantYou have gone in to Freshbikes, right? I can’t stop smiling about how great my bike fits now that Clovis got me all set up. I always thought I needed to be on a 56, but it wasn’t until my fit last night that I learned I should actually be on a 54. I’m just shy of 6′, but the bike had to have a shorter stem (less stability). He did get it dialed in, but said I should really consider a 54 in the future. I’m sure you can go in and have them size you without going through the entire fit process.
June 17, 2012 at 3:33 am #943267PotomacCyclist
Participant@KLizotte 22498 wrote:
If you have reached middle age and work a desk job, you are probably not as flexible as the 20 somethings. A riser stem helps a lot in this department because it means you can reach the handlebars without bending quite so much.
Functional strength training and post-workout stretching can even out the differences a lot. A middle-aged person who keeps fit can easily have better core strength and overall flexibility than a sedentary 20-something. The 20-something will have a higher fitness potential but it requires regular exercise and training to even approach that potential.
June 17, 2012 at 4:05 am #943270DaveK
Participant@KelOnWheels 22489 wrote:
I’m 5’7″ and change, PBH is 32.25″. felt pretty comfy on the WSD 56 and 57cm bikes and like Graeme Obree on the Vaya (or maybe Rocky the Flying Squirrel).
Yup, I definitely don’t want to spend money on a bike that doesn’t fit!
It was good to get on a few different bikes today and feel what “too long” and “probably good” felt like.I was a little surprised that the shop had no WSD steel road/touring/hybrid type bikes (think they might have had some cruisers). So perhaps they are not the shop for me, and that is OK.
Please take this with all the credit due an anonymous person on the interwebs, but I can’t possibly imagine a 5’7″ woman fitting a 56cm or 57cm frame. It has to be too big. I’m 5’9″ and ride a 54cm, but I could ride a 52cm with a longer stem. Maybe you have very long legs? Even so, an ETT of 55cm is positively huge for someone of your height. Check other shops for a second opinion, see if they put you on trainer and look at your fit. I can’t imagine you fit those frames quite right.
June 17, 2012 at 1:14 pm #943277elcee
Participant@KelOnWheels 22486 wrote:
Today was my first time riding drop bars ever. My hands had no clue where they wanted to be!
I just saw this useful article:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/drop-bar-hand-positions-introduction.html
June 17, 2012 at 1:48 pm #943278KelOnWheels
Participant@DaveK 22507 wrote:
Please take this with all the credit due an anonymous person on the interwebs, but I can’t possibly imagine a 5’7″ woman fitting a 56cm or 57cm frame. It has to be too big. I’m 5’9″ and ride a 54cm, but I could ride a 52cm with a longer stem. Maybe you have very long legs? Even so, an ETT of 55cm is positively huge for someone of your height. Check other shops for a second opinion, see if they put you on trainer and look at your fit. I can’t imagine you fit those frames quite right.
That’s why I post, so you guys can tell me this stuff!
June 17, 2012 at 2:14 pm #943280KelOnWheels
Participant@elcee 22514 wrote:
I just saw this useful article:
http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/drop-bar-hand-positions-introduction.html
Oh awesome! That’s super helpful
June 17, 2012 at 3:10 pm #943285Certifried
ParticipantI had never heard this before (in regards to bicycles, at least) but smaller is better. A bike that’s too big will be less stable with a shorter stem and sized down to fit than a bike sized up to fit. All news to me!
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June 17, 2012 at 3:44 pm #943286rcannon100
ParticipantI rode a steel frame for like 25 years. Heavy – but magnificent. Flexible; shock absorbing. Modern materials are a lot stiffer and the rode vibrates right through the frame into your hands and your butt.
My new bike is a lot lighter. Great bike. Much lighter (stiffer, vibrating) bike on one hand – or – heavier, smoother ride on a frame that can take a beating on the other.
At my age, I prefer the lighter – and am trying to shed weight off of the bike.
Back position (seat position) is important – improper position can lead to bikers back. Sitting too upright, which can feel more comfortable, can have deleterious effects. Good bike posture arches the back forward. See one guys description of proper posture.
June 17, 2012 at 11:15 pm #943291KelOnWheels
Participant@rcannon100 22523 wrote:
Back position (seat position) is important – improper position can lead to bikers back. Sitting too upright, which can feel more comfortable, can have deleterious effects. Good bike posture arches the back forward. See one guys description of proper posture.
I definitely need to work on my back muscles! I can tell I’m getting stronger every ride though
I had planned to do some more test riding today, but after an enormous brunch and a couple of adult beverages somehow I didn’t get around to it
on the other hand, I did ride all the way home from DC
(bike + Metro on the way in)
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