Suggestions on a good wind layer in cold weather?
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November 21, 2014 at 7:34 pm #1015481
Powerful Pete
ParticipantHave you considered bicycling-specific winter vests as an option? They would then leave your arms “exposed” but do most of the work in terms of wind blocking.
You could even consider vests that have a portion of the back as mesh – you still get the wind-breaking bits on the front but without the sauna effect.
November 21, 2014 at 7:49 pm #1015485hozn
ParticipantGore Windstopper with pit zips. Not as hot as the waterproof stuff — particularly with the zips. My Gore jacket works from ~5-35F depending on base layer(s).
November 21, 2014 at 7:50 pm #1015486jabberwocky
ParticipantI personally run my Endura cycling shell when it gets cool as a wind blocking layer. I find that if I’m sweating excessively inside its because I layered too many insulation layers underneath. FWIW, I run the jacket with just a basic short sleeve base layer down to 40-45 degrees or so, and add a lightweight long sleeve base layer down to 20 degrees or so. I’m cold for the first 5-10 minutes until my body warms up and then I’m comfy.
November 21, 2014 at 7:53 pm #1015488GB
ParticipantAfter 2 yrs of year round cycling this is my only cycling jacket.
http://blog.centurycycles.com/2013/01/guest-product-review-pearl-izumi-elite.htmlJust layer wool or under armor underneath as needed and you’ll be set in any temp. The vents are great and the only real way for a jacket to be breathable.
It is NOT water proof. But as most comments seem to indicate nothing is breathable and waterproof, so you’re getting wet either way. It’s OK in a light mist and I’ve replenished the waterproofing with Nik wax, but don’t expect it to keep you dry in the rain.
It has zip off sleeves that I’ve probably fully unzipped twice. But I do open them up for extra venting pretty regularly.
Plus it comes in my color.
November 21, 2014 at 8:02 pm #1015491Harry Meatmotor
ParticipantI know folks’ ability to withstand colder temps isn’t something one can comment on across the board (and what might be adequate breathability depends on how hard you’re riding), but maybe this can help – here’s what i typically wear at different temperatures:
60+ = cycling bib + shortsleeve jersey
50-60 = cycling bib + shortsleeve jersey + armwarmers
40-50 = cycling bib + kneewarmers + wool baselayer jersey + shortsleeve jersey + armwarmers
30-40 = cycling bib + kneewarmers + wool baselayer jersey + shortsleeve jersey + windproof armwarmers + windproof vest
20-30 = windproof knickers + wool baselayer jersey + heavy longsleeve winter jersey (if it’s windy, sometimes I’ll add windproof armwarmers over the wool baselayer)
10-20 = windproof leggings + windproof knickers + 2 wool baselayer jerseys + softshell (windproof) jacket
0-10 = same as above, but pedal faster
below 0 = no data yet…As far as specific clothing manufacturers, I’ve had no major issues with Gore Windstopper fabric for any softshell layer, i.e., for the most part, anywhere i say “windproof” above, i’m using Gore Windstopper.
November 21, 2014 at 8:53 pm #1015501TwoWheelsDC
Participant@hozn 100420 wrote:
Gore Windstopper with pit zips. Not as hot as the waterproof stuff — particularly with the zips. My Gore jacket works from ~5-35F depending on base layer(s).
Yeah, Windstopper is nice, and my preferred top layer is a Gore Windstopper softshell. But you don’t have to go cycling-specific to get Windstopper (Gore licenses it to a ton of apparel companies), so you may be able to find non-cycling stuff cheaper.
November 21, 2014 at 10:46 pm #1015512mstone
ParticipantThis is probably an area where it makes sense to go cycle-specific because in most other activities there isn’t much call for a jacket that’s different on the front vs the back. I’ve got an older jacket from REI that has some kind of wind-proof material on the front and a completely non-windproof material on the back. It’s not particularly heavy, so I just keep adding layers as it gets colder. If there’s a strong tailwind it’ll go right through the back of the jacket, in which case I’ll throw on one of those lightweight neon yellow rain shells as a windbreaker. It’ll steam up fast in that case, but who cares–there’s a tailwind! That doesn’t happen often, and most days you can assume a strong headwind both ways.
November 22, 2014 at 1:14 am #1015526FFX_Hinterlands
ParticipantThanks, all! I’ll keep an eye out for one of these suggested jackets.
November 22, 2014 at 2:02 am #1015529sethpo
Participant@GB 100423 wrote:
After 2 yrs of year round cycling this is my only cycling jacket.
http://blog.centurycycles.com/2013/01/guest-product-review-pearl-izumi-elite.htmlJust layer wool or under armor underneath as needed and you’ll be set in any temp. The vents are great and the only real way for a jacket to be breathable.
It is NOT water proof. But as most comments seem to indicate nothing is breathable and waterproof, so you’re getting wet either way. It’s OK in a light mist and I’ve replenished the waterproofing with Nik wax, but don’t expect it to keep you dry in the rain.
It has zip off sleeves that I’ve probably fully unzipped twice. But I do open them up for extra venting pretty regularly.
Plus it comes in my color.
I have one of these as well. I love it. I wore it today over a light wool short sleeve base layer and a wool jersey. I had wool arm warmer but took them off after about 3 miles b/c I was too warm. I have worn it many times w/o the sleeves when the weather is in the 40’s.
Btw, this is my new favorite place for inexpensive wool stuff. Wool arm warmers (that I love) for $12. About the same for legs. Wool socks great price too. It is in the UK so expect to pay about $15 in shipping but it doesn’t take more than a week and is a great bargain if you order a few things at once.
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CLPXMARMW/planet-x-merino-seamless-arm-warmers
November 22, 2014 at 2:09 am #1015530vvill
ParticipantI use a Gore Windstopper soft shell as my go-to in the winter. The sleeves are detachable, and with appropriate layering my core has never been too cold with it. I have a Twin Six (made by Voler) jacket too but it’s often too warm/doesn’t breathe enough.
November 22, 2014 at 2:23 am #1015531Slosurf
ParticipantAnother vote for Gore Bike Wear. Heading into my fourth winter of riding after many years off. Buying Windstopper products by Gore was a game changer for me. I threw out all my antiquated cold weather gear and replaced it with Gore Bike Wear cold weather gear.
I have the Gore Phantom Soft-Shell Convertible jacket and use it when it is in the 30s or lower. I noticed they are on sale at REI right now.
I have recently acquired one of their their Windstopper base layer shirts. I have typically used wool as a base layer so it will be interesting to see how they compare.
November 22, 2014 at 3:26 am #1015539Greenbelt
ParticipantWindstopper and its imitators are great. I wore mine today. But wash regularly, if not daily, and hang dry overnight. Synthetics really can clamp on the stink.
January 16, 2015 at 9:47 pm #1020681FFX_Hinterlands
ParticipantOK, just to reply to this thread with my solution. I have tried various windproof layers but I couldn’t get one that had enough venting. I ended up with this item from Eastern Mountain Sports. It’s windlock on the front and front of the sleeves only. I only need a lightweight wool layer under it in the 30s. Add another thin layer for riding in the 20s. Perfect.
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