Southwest Waterfront redevelopment, Water St. to be closed
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May 9, 2014 at 2:10 pm #1000706
lordofthemark
Participant@creadinger 84763 wrote:
There was a large crane parked across Water St. in front of Philips this morning. They had closed the street down to two total lanes.
On Water st, you should not feel bad about taking the lane, or claiming your space farther to the left. It’s not much of a through street, and drivers can simply wait a few seconds to get where they’re going.
I know, I just feel more comfortable taking a lane where a car can pass in a lane to my left, than doing the “take the single lane” thing. I mean thats what I did this morning (there were several cyclists on Water, maybe you passed me? (red short sleeve shirt, silver hybrid bike, orange and black backpack) Its just made the route an iota less desirable to me.
May 9, 2014 at 2:17 pm #1000708creadinger
Participant@lordofthemark 84764 wrote:
I know, I just feel more comfortable taking a lane where a car can pass in a lane to my left, than doing the “take the single lane” thing. I mean thats what I did this morning (there were several cyclists on Water, maybe you passed me? (red short sleeve shirt, silver hybrid bike, orange and black backpack) Its just made the route an iota less desirable to me.
I’m trying to think if I saw anyone this morning. It was pretty quiet today at 6:50/7am, so I doubt I passed you. I usually see a few people in the fishmarket area though.
One of the worst parts of my commute are when I see a few friendly looking cyclists in the area of Nats Park, and then watch them all turn off leaving only me to head over the Douglass bridge.
May 9, 2014 at 2:34 pm #1000710lordofthemark
Participant@creadinger 84767 wrote:
I’m trying to think if I saw anyone this morning. It was pretty quiet today at 6:50/7am, so I doubt I passed you. I usually see a few people in the fishmarket area though.
One of the worst parts of my commute are when I see a few friendly looking cyclists in the area of Nats Park, and then watch them all turn off leaving only me to head over the Douglass bridge.
I rode by later than that, so no, you didn’t see me.
May 13, 2014 at 11:44 am #1000997Steve
ParticipantUpdates from this morning (Heading from the Fish Market, due south):
1. From the Fish Market to 9th is now just two lanes, with a fence blocking what were previously the other two lanes. No impact, just a little less room.
2. From 9th to 7th was CLOSED to traffic. The closures signs were easy to ride around, so I did so. It was about 0615, so very quiet. I’ll be interested to see if there is enforcement ever, especially in the afternoon. They didn’t try to close the sidewalk at all, and so they’re not preventing people from walking thru that area. I’m hoping they treat it the same way Ohio Dr. is during the Cherry Blossoms, where they let peds and bikes thru with no problem, but not cars.
3. From 9th St. to the Police Station is open as normal.
May 13, 2014 at 3:02 pm #1001027creadinger
Participant@Steve 85081 wrote:
Updates from this morning (Heading from the Fish Market, due south):
1. From the Fish Market to 9th is now just two lanes, with a fence blocking what were previously the other two lanes. No impact, just a little less room.
2. From 9th to 7th was CLOSED to traffic. The closures signs were easy to ride around, so I did so. It was about 0615, so very quiet. I’ll be interested to see if there is enforcement ever, especially in the afternoon. They didn’t try to close the sidewalk at all, and so they’re not preventing people from walking thru that area. I’m hoping they treat it the same way Ohio Dr. is during the Cherry Blossoms, where they let peds and bikes thru with no problem, but not cars.
3. From 9th St. to the Police Station is open as normal.
Yeah, I saw that too this morning. They even have the lines painted on the road, so this looks like it will be a long-term closure. Hopefully like you said, it will be open to peds/bikes for a while before they end up closing it all completely.
Update: Riding through the closed section today, I saw a few large, deep holes had been cut through the road. The workers had parked their vehicles over top of them so that people wouldn’t fall in them though. Hopefully with the closure if it actually does become dangerous to ride/walk through there, they’ll do a better job closing the area. Use Fencing or something. Are there regulations for things like that?
May 16, 2014 at 2:32 pm #1001475lordofthemark
ParticipantI rode through all the closed sections – it works like an impromptu cycle track, at least for now.
May 21, 2014 at 3:31 pm #1001951creadinger
Participant@creadinger 85115 wrote:
Hopefully with the closure if it actually does become dangerous to ride/walk through there, they’ll do a better job closing the area. Use Fencing or something. Are there regulations for things like that?
Well, I sort of asked for it. Yesterday evening the closed sections were blocked by 10ft. fences forcing everyone onto Maine Ave, or the sidewalk along Maine Ave. I think I’ll modify my commute a little bit now to smooth things out. I really don’t like riding on sidewalks unless I absolutely have to.
May 21, 2014 at 7:56 pm #1002024PotomacCyclist
ParticipantI rode over there for the first time in a month. (It’s not on my usual commuting route.) I don’t envy anyone who has to ride through there over the next couple years or so. If it weren’t for underground utility lines, I wonder if it wouldn’t be quicker to evacuate everyone from that area for a day and dynamite the road and the old buildings. I know, this would never be permitted. But it would be really nice to see the demolition process proceed much more quickly.
May 21, 2014 at 7:59 pm #1002025lordofthemark
Participant@creadinger 86087 wrote:
Well, I sort of asked for it. Yesterday evening the closed sections were blocked by 10ft. fences forcing everyone onto Maine Ave, or the sidewalk along Maine Ave. I think I’ll modify my commute a little bit now to smooth things out. I really don’t like riding on sidewalks unless I absolutely have to.
Shoot.
May 21, 2014 at 8:04 pm #1002028Mikey
ParticipantWhen life gives you lemons do a Hains Point Loop!
If you are coming up water street from the Titanic stature, the road closure at 7th puts you out onto Maine ave. Luckily it puts you on Maine while the traffic on Maine is stopped at the light. This should give you just enough time to get past the parked cars and into the right most lane by 9th, before the traffic comes screeming down Maine behind you. Jump over to the curb at 9th and head up the path behind the bushes up to the L’enfant premenade, and the case bridge. The case bridge plops you down on Ohio drive from which you can cross over the median and go left to get back to East Basin Drive, or you can continue to the right the long way
I predict many HP laps from me this summer, while water street is closed.
May 21, 2014 at 8:17 pm #1002030lordofthemark
Participant@Mikey 86166 wrote:
When life gives you lemons do a Hains Point Loop!
If you are coming up water street from the Titanic stature, the road closure at 7th puts you out onto Maine ave. Luckily it puts you on Maine while the traffic on Maine is stopped at the light. This should give you just enough time to get past the parked cars and into the right most lane by 9th, before the traffic comes screeming down Maine behind you. Jump over to the curb at 9th and head up the path behind the bushes up to the L’enfant premenade, and the case bridge. The case bridge plops you down on Ohio drive from which you can cross over the median and go left to get back to East Basin Drive, or you can continue to the right the long way
I predict many HP laps from me this summer, while water street is closed.
Hmm. Doesn’t sound appetizing. I come from the Eye Street bike lane. I will try the G Street to Bannekar park route instead I think. Haven’t been to Banneker Park in ages, and in Google street view it does NOT look like there is an easy and safe way to get from G Street into the park. Any ideas?
May 21, 2014 at 8:45 pm #1002042Kolohe
Participant@lordofthemark 86168 wrote:
Hmm. Doesn’t sound appetizing. I come from the Eye Street bike lane. I will try the G Street to Bannekar park route instead I think. Haven’t been to Banneker Park in ages, and in Google street view it does NOT look like there is an easy and safe way to get from G Street into the park. Any ideas?
You can dip down to Maine on the east side (of 9th) sidewalk, cross at the intersection (watch for right turning cars from 9th onto Maine that will block the x-walk) then up the (paved) path up to the circle.
(edit for redundancy and lack of reading)
May 21, 2014 at 8:46 pm #1002044consularrider
ParticipantI’m glad this update came today since I’m about to ride over to RFK for tonight’s Ride of Silence (assuming the predicted thunderstorms don’t cause its cancelation). Too bad because I like riding down Water and along to P and over the trails. Maybe I’ll go that way anyway.
May 21, 2014 at 11:48 pm #1002059ShawnoftheDread
ParticipantRide of Silence? I like the sound of that .
May 22, 2014 at 12:15 pm #1002075Steve
Participant@creadinger 86087 wrote:
Well, I sort of asked for it. Yesterday evening the closed sections were blocked by 10ft. fences forcing everyone onto Maine Ave, or the sidewalk along Maine Ave. I think I’ll modify my commute a little bit now to smooth things out. I really don’t like riding on sidewalks unless I absolutely have to.
I come from P, and I think I’ll just start taking 4th up to I to 7th to Maine to 9th or the Case Bridge, just depending on my mood. The only thing I hate about this is it always seems to take a while and be a cluster when crossing M on 4th. I guess there’s not much you can do about it.
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