snow removal from bike paths

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  • #923207
    consularrider
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    @Darren B 160 wrote:

    I wrote to the NPS, regarding the Mt. Vernon Trail (they own it, not Arlington Co). They do not plow, saying that they want to accomodate cross country skiers, and that the wooden bridges can’t be plowed.

    The cross country skier thing is bunk, since the trail is pockmarked with holes from where users are attempting to walk, ruining the tracks and rendering it pretty crappy for XCskiing. If they plowed a three-foot channel, walkers/bikers could use the cleared portion, and skiers would have the remainder untouched. Everybody wins. Not to mention the fact that a multi-use trail shouldn’t try to accomodate every possible use if doing so excludes others, as they are doing now.

    The bridge sections (of which there are none between my house in Pentagon City and the 14th Street Bridge, and there is also NO other bikable connection between those two points) could at least be snowblown with snowblower deck height set higher to prevent bridge damage. Had they done this, snowmelt would have made the trail passable by now.

    But of course, they don’t. The Parkway gets full treatment, because it is for transportation. But the MtV Trail gets neglected until the snow melts someday, and I am stuck riding the stupid train to work.

    If you also think they are shirking their responsibilities to accomodate all users (including people with mobility disabilities) on their transportation facility, write to them.
    http://www.nps.gov/NCR/sendmail.htm?o=%3B3%29%2B6JZ%2B%20NJR1J1JA%5B1%2AEJ4%2E34J%5D2II%5F16%21%22X&r=/gwmp/contacts.htm

    I also think you have to remember that these trails are all multiuse trails, not soley bike trails. I am also a cross country skier and can assure you that during the December and February storms I have been out using the W&OD and 4 Mile Run Trails until the snow melted too much. Since I live almost right on both trails, I can also tell you that even as late as this weekend (February 21) I was seeing skiers using the trails.

    It does not appear that any of the local jurisdictions even have snow removal equipment that would be appropriate for the trails or sidewalks. Clearly Arlington County has no plan to clear most of its own sidewalks and was asking area residencts to help get public walks cleared so the kids could get to school last week. I too would like the the NPS/NVPA/county/city/whatever to finally take responsibility to clear bike lanes after the snow stops instead of leaving a snow berm and to clear the trails once they are not skiable.

    #923210
    Nadine
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    @Unregistered 164 wrote:

    For the Arlington trails (Custis & W&OB), I would be willing to shovel.

    Maybe volunteer shovel brigades could get the job done? Of course, the snow might be frozen solid now and impossible to remove w/standard snow shovels.

    I’d shovel. It won’t be frozen solid now — with these last few days in the 40s even the hard ice chunks have lost their punch. (I was able to shovel out a parking space today that was only vacant because it was a snow mountain — and all I had on me was a plastic child’s shovel.) We might be able to get a good bit of the trail done. Alternatively — I was thinking that if lots of people just went out and shoveled bits of the trail — really just whatever we feel comfortable shoveling, or have time to shovel — the counties might come in and finish the job. Even if they don’t it will help the melt, especially if we aim for the low-lying & shady spots, which melt last.

    Definitely if anyone wants to start a shoveling brigade count me in. I started one on the sidewalks on the Patrick Henry overpass over route 66. We got one sidewalk done on President’s day, JUST in time for kids to walk to school the next day — and then I was halfway across the other side last Thursday when a county truck pulled over and told me they’d come do it. They were clearly embarassed – there I was all by myself with half a bridgefull of virgin snow in front of me….. I was enjoying myself, though, and not convinced they’d do it before Monday, so I kept shoveling. But they came! They came and trucked the snow away from the sidewalks on both sides of the overpass, on Friday and Saturday. It blew me away! And it reminded me — if the people lead, sometimes the county actually gets it together…… Maybe it looked like JUST TOO MUCH SNOW to deal with — but the sight of individuals shoveling put that into perspective. That could work for the paths too. I know we’re not a school, but I think i might be worth trying……

    #923213
    bikermark
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    Just rode this evening from 14th St bridge to Shirlington. Path was clear, tree blocking at 14th St bridge (and many other trees) have been trimmed and moved out of the way. Happy commuting tomorrow.

    #923218
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    I just used the Arlington portion of the W&OD this morning. Much of it has been plowed, with notable exceptions. The part between the Rt. 50 bridge east to the new bathrooms is treacherous in spots, and there is a stretch of downed bamboo blocking the trail. Worst, though is the hump east of Sycamore St. where the “Brandymore Castle” sign is. None of this has been touched, and there are huge snowpiles on the trail where VDOT dumped snow from 66 right onto the trail. I had to walk it to Sycamore St. and bailed at that point to continue west towards Tysons. Strange, as in previous storms this is an area they cleared first, even putting salt down on this hump. Maybe they saw the VDOT snowpiles and gave up. It’s not so helpful to plow part of the trail and not do the whole thing, though. Hopefully they will finish this today. Until then, might as well stay on the streets.

    Al

    #923219
    consularrider
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    I rode the Custis this morning from the W&OD intersection until just east of Glebe. There is still a downed pine tree completely blocking the trail as you turn right from the I-66 exit ramp crossover near N Vernon St. Just west of Glebe you are dodging two downed trees that partially block the trail. Also, at the Fairfax Dr access just east of George Mason, there is a ten foot stretch of snowy slush that was ice this morning. With temperatures around freezing in the mornings, the meltoff has been refreezing, leaving lots of black ice.

    From my rides yesterday and today, it does not appear that any of the access trails to the W&OD or Custis Trails have been cleared. Since I live near one, I will undertake to clear it tonight. Any more volunteers?

    #923222
    Nadine
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    I took my bike out today for the first time since the big snowfall. I thought I’d have to bike on streets but it’s much clearer than that. I think it was probably plowed after the big snow and before the last 6-10 inch snowfall that happened a few days later. Now it’s mostly clear except for that place between COurthouse and Spout run that always holds snow. It’s more snow than I’ve seen there before, but it was short enough that it was worth walking for that stretch and staying on the trail as opposed to riding on streets — which really impressed me! Also, it’s only a couple of inches deep in the deepest places, and would only take 4-6 hours to shovel, all told. Besides that area, there’s probably less than an hour of cleaning up that could be done to make it nice in bits here and there — but not necessary. I’d like to get that snowy area cleaned though. I was itching to shovel it but didn’t have my shovel. ANyone interested in shoveling with me? (Or not with me…..doesn’t matter.) I have a little time tomorrow and more on Sunday. ANyone up for shoveling? I don’t know that it’s going to get done otherwise…..

    This is a totally doable project — it’s less than a quarter the work that the Patrick Henry overpass was, and we did that…..

    The only other obstacle on the Custis is the downed trees. Not sure what’s up with them; the county is usually totally on top of that….. if anyone knows who to contact to ask about it I’d love to know. Most are downed pine trees — and one bamboo patch near the Quincy st exit. Two of the downed trees obstruct the path almost completely. I had to crawl under them and was glad I had a helmet on when I did….

    :-D Nadine

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    #923228

    I took a run to investigate that section today. I bike commute everyday that I can, from Shirlington to just outside of western Falls Church near Merrifield. From the trail head in Shirlington to about 4.75 miles it is virtually clear. A couple of snow patches just before Rt 50. also a patch of bamboo trees were downed on part of the trail. At the hill called “Brandymore Castle” it was snow packed over. however me and this other guy managed to clear a path way up and over that section. You can at least walk your bike through easily. Pro riders could navigate it. However I would think it will still get icy in the mornings, so take caution. after that the trail still has some snow and ice past the East FC Metro. but the neighborhood streets are clear there.

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