Shimano Metrea
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May 18, 2016 at 12:41 am #1052212
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ParticipantMay 18, 2016 at 2:23 am #1052223TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantBecause Merckx forbid they use 6-bolt disc rotors…
May 18, 2016 at 1:46 pm #1052244ian74
ParticipantIt’s meant for hispters, so they can ride bullhorns and throw shifters on them. You can keep your flannel fixie deep v neon purple wheels riding bike and nobody will notice how conformist you really are with those gear thingys. Now if they only made a gryoscope for assisted trackstands.
/satire
May 18, 2016 at 2:30 pm #1052250Crickey7
ParticipantThis is my kind of riding, and that setup looks a lot like the way I set my bikes up, but I hadn’t really noticed that this was an underserved segment. Maybe the 1X drivetrain sets it apart a bit, but they could have easily adapted one of their existing lines to that. I’m not really getting it.
May 18, 2016 at 3:29 pm #1052261mstone
Participant@Crickey7 139825 wrote:
This is my kind of riding, and that setup looks a lot like the way I set my bikes up, but I hadn’t really noticed that this was an underserved segment. Maybe the 1X drivetrain sets it apart a bit, but they could have easily adapted one of their existing lines to that. I’m not really getting it.
If they didn’t artificially segment the market, what would all the mid level execs do? I mean they could just make it easy to mix “mountain” and “road” components to get what you want, but where’s the profit in that? Better to make up additional compatibility headaches with arbitrary limitations by inventing “trekking” and “metrea”.
May 18, 2016 at 5:19 pm #1052273huskerdont
ParticipantThe components themselves look good, but that marketing is a huge turnoff.
“METREA is for the instigators and the non-conformists, the early-adopters and the inspiring pioneers.”
May 18, 2016 at 6:08 pm #1052274TwoWheelsDC
Participant@huskerdont 139853 wrote:
The components themselves look good, but that marketing is a huge turnoff.
“METREA is for the instigators and the non-conformists, the early-adopters and the inspiring pioneers.”
Non-conformists who run components from the biggest bike component maker in the world, and early adopters who use a groupset that is effectively 4 years old.
May 18, 2016 at 6:28 pm #1052277Crickey7
Participant“Quicker acceleration, quicker shifting and quicker braking suits busy traffic and lively riding, and brings urban sports riding enjoyment.”
The first doesn’t seem to warrant a new groupset. That’s a function of weight, rotational mass in the wheels and the gearing you start out with. Any fast bike ought to meet that criteria. The second merits some attention, if they really did achieve the promised response. Fast urban biking does involve more gear shifts that need to be crisp, fast and often under load. The third is a bit of a head scratcher. Is there anyone who thinks slow braking is acceptable in a groupset? I’d be interested in a 1X format, as I find that I have to shift the front derailleur up and down with every stop. That’s sub-optimal in several respects. So I’m not totally dismissive.
May 18, 2016 at 7:10 pm #1052282Greenbelt
Participant1x = excellent
It’s one bike industry gimmick that I think is absolutely helpful. In a sense, it’s a non-gimmick, and I’m going to try to convert to a fully 1x fleet this year.May 18, 2016 at 7:31 pm #1052285hozn
Participant@Crickey7 139857 wrote:
Is there anyone who thinks slow braking is acceptable in a groupset?
People using rim brakes, I guess? (A little flippant, but in general I would say that slower braking is often “good enough” and the benefits of faster/better braking are not seen as worthwhile enough to warrant upgrading [to hydraulic disc brakes].)
@Greenbelt 139862 wrote:
1x = excellent
It’s one bike industry gimmick that I think is absolutely helpful. In a sense, it’s a non-gimmick, and I’m going to try to convert to a fully 1x fleet this year.Bold! So that complete conversion includes road bike(s)? I love 1x[10] on my commuter/cross(/gravel) bike. I switched from 36/46 rings with an 11-28 cassette to a 46t front ring with an 11-36 cassette. This was a small *increase* in range, but I did notice a couple missing cogs that I enjoyed on the 11-28. I got used to it and think it’s well worth it, but not sure I am ready to switch out my road for 1x. Though now that I look at it on a gear calculator, I guess that I could get away with using an 11-40 cassette with a 50t ring for more range than a 36/50 front setup paired with an 11-28. I thought I’d need a bigger cassette. Hmmm …
May 18, 2016 at 7:40 pm #1052286huskerdont
ParticipantI like the idea of 1x for mountain biking and am a bit bummed I didn’t build up my Soma that way. But for road and commuting, the main advantages I see are eliminating slower front shifting and losing a little weight. The weight of a double isn’t all that much to me, and you can chose not to shift the chainring anyway if that’s a concern, especially if you have 11 cogs and pay attention to your chain’s track. I suppose it’s one less ring to clean as well, if that’s your thing, and times being what they are.
May 18, 2016 at 7:41 pm #1052287GovernorSilver
ParticipantSpeaking of wide-range cassettes, have any of y’all seen SRAM’s new 10-50 beast? I presume it’s part of a concept bike/group set, just like the Metrea is, for now, a concept groupset.
https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/products/xg-1299-eagle-cassette
Apparently, it requires its own special chain. Gold colored too of course.
https://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/family/xx1-eagle
May 18, 2016 at 8:10 pm #1052290mstone
Participant@Crickey7 139857 wrote:
I’d be interested in a 1X format, as I find that I have to shift the front derailleur up and down with every stop. That’s sub-optimal in several respects. So I’m not totally dismissive.
In general that means you need a different combination of gears, but not necessarily a 1x. Assuming that the combination you want is one that shimano has deemed appropriate for your arbitrary market segment…
May 18, 2016 at 10:08 pm #1052295dplasters
ParticipantI’m holding out for 1x eTAP 😎
… i would like to know if that is possible though…
May 18, 2016 at 11:44 pm #1052297LeprosyStudyGroup
ParticipantThis would have been exactly the bike I wanted to buy 2 years ago as my s´urban commuter but now it’s too late, and probably too expensive.
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