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  • #931019
    Greenbelt
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    It’s expensive, but I’m a big fan of the Gore Windstopper membrane/panels. It’s not totally waterproof, but good enough for winter, when it’s usually not raining that hard. Very breathable, which is key. I picked up a nice jacket on sale at REI a while back in a stylish lemon yellow color. Fits snug, so no parachuting.

    I can’t wear truly water proof jacket — just not breathable enough, even Gore-Tex. I overheat/oversweat even on the coldest days. Just go with lots of layers instead and the Windstopper on top if it’s really bad out. I do have a pair of Gore-Tex wind pants, which I wear when it’s really cold with stretch pants underneath. The wind pants can catch on the gears, so you either need an ankle reflector bracelet or just keep the chain on the big front chainwheel all the time.

    #931037
    CCrew
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    About the best true waterproof cycling jackets are made by ShowersPass http://www.showerspass.com/

    Not cheap.

    #931038
    jrenaut
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    Not cheap is okay – if it works and lasts, it’s cheap in the long run.

    #931040
    DaveK
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    I wear a light rain jacket over whatever I’m normally wearing and ride slow. I have this one – http://shop.pearlizumi.com/product.php?mode=view&product_id=1575779&outlet= – it’s light and small enough to be rolled up in my pannier 95% of the time without noticing it’s there.

    #931042
    dbb
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    I second the Showers Pass. I rode all last winter with one and it kept me dry on the wet days and cut the wind on the cold days. A couple of layers of warm stuff underneath it and I stayed warm. REI sells them.

    #931043
    jrenaut
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    I really like the look of the Showers Pass pants on their website. Have any of you used the pants, or just the jackets?

    #931044
    Dirt
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    I guess I’ll weigh in. I obviously have an opinion or 9 on the topic.

    The best rain gear without question is not for you, but for your bike. Fenders. Unless you’re riding through rain like we had last night (which I rather enjoyed) most of stuff that gets you wet comes from below, not above.

    Rain Jackets: I own 3 great ones and 1 good one and a few really horrible ones. For me I’ve found that rain jackets are useless when the temps are over 65 degrees. If it is a real rain jacket, I generate more sweat if it is warm-ish outside than the jacket is able to wick (release). I end up just as, if not more wet than had I just worn a vest.

    Jackets that I love:

    • Showers Pass Elite. Expensive, pretty much bomb-proof and pretty well ventilated.
    • Rapha rain jacket: Insanely expensive. Best rain jacket I’ve ever seen. Other than price (around $300) it is flawless…. although my friend Kevin discovered that they’re not fire proof. Expensive mistake.
    • Pearl Izumi Elite Barrier: New kid on the block. It is light, wicks pretty well and SERIOUSLY waterproof. Pretty reasonably priced too. I got mine on sale for $120. The hood is probably useless.
    • Endura Flyte: Awesome jacket starting out. Pretty expensive (I think I got it for about $220) and SERIOUSLY waterproof to start out. The waterproofing almost completely failed after 3 or 4 washings though. I washed according to directions and it still failed. I’ve treated it with XC ski jacket wash and treatment designed for high tech, membrane jackets like this and that has revived it a bit. Endura support has not helped with any kind of suggestion for how to care for their clothes so as to keep them waterproof. I will not buy, nor recommend any of their rain gear even though they start out perfect.

    Lots of companies make great jackets for cycling. Gore is the one that comes to mind. My Gore Windstopper jacket works pretty well in the rain. Very well made too.

    Vests: If it is in the low 60s or higher, I leave the jacket at home. As I said above, any water that they keep off me is replaced by me sweating through. I’ve got 3 vests that I love. Endura makes a great windstopper vest that works well for me in the rain. Keeps my core warm and happy even if I get a bit wet. I think it cost me about $80. My Campagnolo softshell vest keeps light storms out and keeps me super cozy and well ventilated even if I do get wet. It is a little pricy, but you get what you pay for. I paid around $200, but have gotten 3 hard seasons of riding with it and it shows no signs of wear or mortality. My Rapha stow-away vest is insanely over the top. It weighs NOTHING, keeps light rain and mist out nicely and vents perfectly. It also weighs nothing. It also costs $200.

    Gloves: Nothing is going to keep your hands dry in a real rain. Moose Mitts and Bar Mitts are good when it is cold. Even they tend to send rain down your arms into your gloves and onto your hands. Do not despair!!!! Our scuba diving brethren and sistren have the answer. Castelli makes a glove called the Diluvio (Google will find them) that are made of neoprene. Your hands still get wet, but they stay warm. The palms are kinda weird, but they grip the bars really well. Trust me, these things rock. Warm and wet is better than Cold and wet any day… especially when Warm and dry isn’t an option.

    Bottoms: Generally I find rain pants useless. I’ve used some of the best designed pants and they all totally fail to do anything but make my legs below the knees feel all oggie. Rain knickers, on the other hand, are wonderful. I have 2 pairs of lovely and expensive rain pants (CAnari and Showers Pass) that have been redeemed at the hands of my very sharp sewing scissors and a little time with a sewing machine. I also have a set of Endura rain knickers that, though not as waterproof as they once were, work reasonably well.

    Legs: What do I do with my exposed legs? Depends on how cold it is. If it is above 55 degrees, I do nothing. I’m not made of sugar. I’m not gonna melt. 35-55 degrees I will embrocate. At the top end of that spectrum, a dollop of Bag Balm or petroleum jelly rubbed into each shin and calf keeps the water off and even helps with a little warmth. If it is cold-ish.. Mid 40’s down to about 35 and I’m going to be on the bike for a while, there are embrocations that work to keep your skin and muscles warm even in those elements. They increase blood flow and repel rain. Don’t embrocate with any of those if you’re just riding to the office. The warming effect lasts for hours and you’ll feel kinda weird sitting at your desk with your legs extra toasty. The stuff wears off, rather than washing off. When you get into the really cold weather stuff… where you’re dealing with slush and snow, I use mountaineering gators. They’re part boot cover, part over-garment. They go up to just below my knees and overlap with my knickers. They work perfectly and if you size them correctly, they give a pretty good seal around your shoes too. I’ve done serious creek crossings with mine and not had water come in the top of my boots. Most mountaineering shops have a good selection and size. I got mine at REI about 20 years ago for $20. They’re a little more expensive these days.

    Helmet: If it is warm, I do nothing. My head gets wet anyways. Cooler temps might make me get out a goretex helmet cover. Sugoi, Pearl, Gore and others make great ones. My Lazer helmet has the coolest solution. They make a lexan cover that snaps over the helmet and just covers the vents. They make a clear one that looks like a normal helmet and a yellow one with the Lion of Flanders on it. I have the latter. Lazer also makes earflaps when it gets really cold. Cool company. Great helmets. Lots of people wear a cycling cap under their helmet to add a bit of warmth. If the cap is wool, it even works when wet.

    What did I miss?

    Glasses. Not much helps. I mentioned Cat Crap lens treatment in a different thread (google will find it). It is okay. Some friends like goggles when it gets cold. I fog all of it up. I tend to wear a hat with a visor under my helmet and tilt my head so that the rain doesn’t hit directly in my eyeballs.

    Shoes! Almost forgot shoes. Lake makes rain shoes. They’re awesome!!!! Expensive though. I think they’re around $170. I love them. Shoe covers can be had for $20-40. Showers Pass makes some REALLY Nice ones, but they’re sized for going over running shoes with thick soles. I’m a size 46 (11.5 to Amerikans) and the Mediums that I got were a bit large. I strap them tight with Bike Arlington reflective gear. Lots of companies make nice neoprene ones. Pearl Izumi makes some AWESOME Ones that come with a rear flashy light built in, but they’re a bit more expensive.

    Socks: Wool is your friend. Seal Skinns makes waterproof socks. I tried them and they turn my shoes into sweat buckets and give me blisters bigtime. For people who sweat a bit less than I do, I’ve heard they work well.

    Did I mention that you should put fenders on your bike?

    Hugs and Kisses,

    Pete

    #931045
    Dirt
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    Castelli neoprene gloves and the Pearl Izumi Elite Barrier jacket in action.

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    Lazer Helium Helmet with the Lion of (Ned) Flanders snap-on cover. Endura Flyte jacket (now semi-retired).

    #931046
    Dirt
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    As if I haven’t spammed y’all enough with this…..

    Care for these garments is amazingly difficult. Be very, very gentle with them. My Endura jacket is a prime example. I’m sure there’s a way to clean it and preserve the waterproof nature of the jacket, but I couldn’t find it and the company was no help. Our XC ski brethren and sistren have GREAT products for cleaning and re-treating waterproof clothing. Most good outdoor stores sell it. I wash my rain gear very sparingly using cold water and either by hand or in a front-load washer on the gentlest of cycles. Never get them near a real heat source. Drip dry them. If you buy an Endura jacket, wear it till it rots, unless you can get a sensical answer out of their customer support folks.

    When in doubt, call the customer service line for the company that made your clothes. You might want to do that BEFORE buying. After my experience with Endura, I did and got great answers from Rapha and Pearl.

    Lunch over. I need to hammer out this day.

    I love you all. :D Dance between the raindrops.

    Did I mention that fenders are awesome?

    #931047
    jrenaut
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    One of these days I’ll get a chance to try to install the fenders I got from CCrew again. If I fail this time, I will have the bike shop put them on.

    As for shoe covers, I have to decide if I’m ready to take the plunge and get rid of the toe cages and get real bike shoes/pedals. I’ve resisted so far, but the cages kind of suck.

    #931048
    Dirt
    Participant

    Oh yeah… one last thing…

    There are definitely cheaper jackets out there. If you get one, make sure it has pit zips. They really make a huge difference with ventilation. The old, clear plastic jackets that the pros used to use (and some still do) work okay if you get one that is well vented. There are some high tech clear ones now that are under $100. I honestly haven’t tried these yet. In theory they are breathable.

    Smooch!

    #931049
    jrenaut
    Participant

    Also, remember that my commute only breaks the 30 minute mark when I get a chance to go the long way, something I’m not going to be terribly inclined to do if the weather is both wet enough and cold enough for rain gear. It’s only just over 3 miles, all in the city.

    #931050
    OneEighth
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    You know, it’s a shame, but the only thing sticking in my head after the rain gear dissertation is the image of Dirt hunched over his rain pants trying to thread a needle while the cats bat at it.

    I just get wet. Wool socks, cycling cap, and coolmax technical shirts from JLRacing take the edge off even in cold weather.

    #931051
    jrenaut
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    And, almost forgot – thanks, all, for the advice.

    #931052
    jabberwocky
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    I have to say, I have a showerspass elite jacket and while I like the design and material, the build quality has been very poor. Many of the taped seams have delaminated and I’ve had to repair them myself (shoe goo and sewing machine). Their support was non-existent. I wouldn’t recommend them.

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