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  • #1096219
    Boomer Cycles
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    Transform I-66 Outside the Beltway 22959258a4e95c0be32af4c0f674ba29.jpg6670b79c3996babedbd91d3e22f4d356.jpg197cfc14ad0d31e16a91c9cba19ac7dd.jpg3fdbceba93e835911fb52269d5706559.jpg

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    #1096220
    Boomer Cycles
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    Fairfax County’s piece of the bike connectivity puzzle..7deb6377889ea51c3d55e4ada3d4f71f.jpg1e8a2e83719739eb751ee70ce933cece.jpgdf082088594c71dd1bf3d89b37fb77c1.jpg

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    #1096221
    Boomer Cycles
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    Meanwhile, inside the Beltway will see some significant improvements, too4b05593ca5c1f28e1af42ba4239da4da.jpg

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    #1096227
    sszibler
    Participant

    @Boomer2U 188049 wrote:

    I rode my bike to a well attended advocacy meeting tonight in Fairfax VA hosted by @BikeFairfax (aka FABB) with VDOT and Fairfax County officials about the proposed I-66 Trail Outside the Beltway, as well as plans by FFX county to connect to it from outside the I-66 corridor, and an update on trail upgrades Inside the Beltway. There were a number of cyclists there, including FABB reps, and I chatted with Cathy M (whom I believe is participating in BAFS2019).

    I’m not a very good bump on a log unless I’m sleeping through a meeting, so I asked a few question like “why not switch the sound barrier and trail barrier between motorized vehicles and pedestrians/cyclists since it uses existing space more safely?” (…no, because the homeowners won that NIMBY battle already with the elected county supervisors); “what do all the different color codes and symbols mean on your PowerPoint maps?” (…a legend will be provided in an updated version); “can you please upload your coded maps with legend on the web?” (…yes, but not yet); and, “how do you determine when to approve payments to the contractor and manage delivery risk if your contracts do not include any performance milestones?” (…lengthy discussion on the basics of public-private partnerships and who bears the risk…buy me several beers if you want to unpack this one!).

    It was good to see such good coordination between VDOT, their lead contractor, Fairfax County and FABB (@BikeFairfax). They are trying to do the right thing for cyclists/pedestrians within the constraints of motorists and property owners who don’t want any of this in their backyard (NIMBYs…not in my backyard) and money left over after the cars take the lion’s share.

    While the basic parameters have been defined, contracts negotiated, and construction already underway on some sections of the 22 miles to be reconstructed, there are still lots of finer details yet to be defined re where exactly the trail will go, if it is at/below/above grade with vehicular traffic, and exactly what kind of physical barrier will separate people from motorized vehicles (though current standard is a 50 inch high concrete barrier–when at grade). There will be lots more public meetings where you can ask questions and provide input/feedback. This is especially true of the “outside corridor” trails and cycle tracks to be built by Fairfax County to feed into the I-66 trail and connect to Vienna and Dunn Loring MetroRail stations.

    On a closing note, this is probably the single most significant opportunity to get non-motorized modes of transportation built along the I-66 corridor in my almost 30 years of bike commuting along that route. Another opportunity like this probably won’t come around for another generation. I encourage you engage and make a lasting difference that will benefit cyclists/peds for years to come.

    Find out more info here: https://fabb-bikes.org/project/i66-trail/cdf313d2531731d416781b383cbc8d1f.jpge009e78691c53acb7f69f6a8478fe07a.jpg944ef134828afdd6c48d7d5b33b19a31.jpg9c66c92a0d088bc5a9b4aca0c4eda1ec.jpg

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    Grrr.

    #1096230
    Boomer Cycles
    Participant

    Upcoming Advocacy Opportunities in Fairfax County, NOVA62e848b9a7554a8381b8951db0c5a8e3.jpgdcd061f584baa3604ccbec5c3efbe89b.jpg

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    #1096266
    Emm
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    I humbly submit this for QOT points:

    On Monday, I attended an Alexandria Traffic and Parking Board meeting, and spoke on behalf of making the MVT safer by banning right turn on reds at the entrance of the Porto Vecchio condominium (southern most trail crossing of the MVT before it goes from Alexandria into Fairfax County). It was terrifying, but it was successful! The Alexandria Traffic and Parking board unanimously voted to recommend banning right turn on reds at this intersection. Now it goes to the city who will hopefully install the sign asap.

    Rootchopper also spoke about getting hit by a driver at this intersection, and Zack D from BPAC also spoke on behalf of banning right turn on reds. 2 members of the condo association spoke as well, although they were against this change.

    In case you’re wondering, this is the typed up version of what I said.


    Hi, my name is EMM. I’m here on behalf of the Friends of the Mount Vernon trail, a volunteer organization that works to improve the Mount Vernon trail for all users. I’m also a regular user of the MVT, and am here to support the banning of right on reds at this intersection.

    Between 300 and 400 thousand pedestrians and cyclists used the trail right outside this intersection, as evidenced by Alexandria’s bike and pedestrian counter data. This intersection is a very busy stretch on the MVT, and is a key connection between Alexandria and Fairfax County.

    Due to the poor sight lines for drivers turning right out of Porto Vecchio at this intersection, it is an inherently risky intersection for people who walk and bike. The landscaping work the condo help a little with improving driver sight lines, but it has not materially improved this situation–within the last year I have known at least one person who has been hit by a car trying to turn right on red at this intersection, and I have had numerous near misses myself when cars failed to yield to walkers and bikers while trying to turn right on red here. Just last weekend I had to swerve around a car that was completely blocking the crosswalk in an attempt to see far enough down the parkway to turn right, forcing me and numerous joggers to enter the GW parkway to avoid the car.

    In order to limit the inconvenience to residents of Porto Vecchio, the friends of the MVT supports adjusting the light cycle so that Porto Vecchio residents have a shorter gap between green lights. We’d also support giving Porto Vecchio a leading green to de-conflict them with bus traffic that is trying to turn left out of the building across the parkway. We also strongly recommend changing the left turn signal for southbound drivers to be red when bikes and pedestrians have the right of way on the trail. This will further improve the safety of bikes and pedestrians crossing at this intersection.

    Ideally, when people walking or on bikes have a walk signal or green bike signal, drivers will not be turning right on red out of Porto Vecchio, or left into Porto Vechio from the parkway. This will also give drivers the knowledge that they have the complete right of way when leaving or turning left into Porto Vecchio, and minimize their risk of sudden stops or crashes with bikes and walkers.

    Making this change is consistent with Alexandria’s Vision Zero plan to prevent death and serious injury, and is crucial for keeping trail users safe, so I urge you to support changing the sign at this intersection a complete ban for right on reds.

    #1096274
    Steve O
    Participant

    I did a minor lumberjacking on the Custis Trail by the Marriott last night.

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    #1096275
    Steve O
    Participant

    @Boomer2U 188049 wrote:

    I rode my bike to a well attended advocacy meeting tonight in Fairfax VA hosted by @BikeFairfax (aka FABB) with VDOT and Fairfax County officials about the proposed I-66 Trail Outside the Beltway, as well as plans by FFX county to connect to it from outside the I-66 corridor, and an update on trail upgrades Inside the Beltway. There were a number of cyclists there, including FABB reps, and I chatted with Cathy M (whom I believe is participating in BAFS2019).

    For those of you who missed it, there’s a multi-page thread about this here: http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?11995-22-Mile-Trail-Parallel-to-I-66-Helpful-Video-and-Input-Needed

    #1096317
    Steve O
    Participant

    The Judd-meister himself witnessed this morning’s lumberjacking of the new 7th St. S. connector to the W&OD.
    Now open for business!

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    #1096322
    Bob James
    Participant

    @Boomer2U 188049 wrote:

    I rode my bike to a well attended advocacy meeting tonight in Fairfax VA hosted by @BikeFairfax (aka FABB) with VDOT and Fairfax County officials about the proposed I-66 Trail Outside the Beltway, as well as plans by FFX county to connect to it from outside the I-66 corridor, and an update on trail upgrades Inside the Beltway. There were a number of cyclists there, including FABB reps, and I chatted with Cathy M (whom I believe is participating in BAFS2019).

    I’m not a very good bump on a log unless I’m sleeping through a meeting, so I asked a few question like “why not switch the sound barrier and trail barrier between motorized vehicles and pedestrians/cyclists since it uses existing space more safely?” (…no, because the homeowners won that NIMBY battle already with the elected county supervisors);

    I went to two meetings on this many months ago before I moved from Manassas. At that time there was room for discussion with the NIMBY’s to move the sound barrier between trail and 66, but I see now that door is closed. Homeowners were concerned for privacy, safety of children, littering and bathroom breaks of trail users among others. These are all valid concerns, but narrow minded, selfish and short sighted. If these homeowners ever want to sell, their property would be most likely be more desirable to potential trail users who would prefer a quieter trail to walk and ride on. Some kind of natural grown privacy borders could be used between homeowners backyard and trail if desired. Most obviously don’t have the mindset of using the trail for commuting, shopping, etc like residents along the Custis inside the beltway.

    For my part, I told VDOT the most important thing is to make the trail parallel to 66 and not wind and curve like MVT or even custis with short line of sight for cyclists needing to pass. It should not be viewed as a recreational [nature/scenic) trail for walkers and runner, but a highway for bikes to quickly travel the long distance from western cities into DC. When I commuted from Manassas to DC, i had to add over 10 miles one way to find a safe route into DC. I will be visiting Manassas still and look forward to using the new trail into DC.

    Keep representing Cyclist interests Boomer.

    #1096324
    LhasaCM
    Participant

    A few folks today engaged in some “tactical urbanism” to put in place some temporary protections on the MBT at K Street NE. On Wednesday, the zebras/flexposts were removed so that the road could be repaved. After all of the damaged done by the construction vehicles for 100K, this was long overdue. However, they left for the day without restriping any lanes, reinstalling the permanent cycletrack protections, or putting up some temporary barriers. This made that intersection very unsafe for cyclists, especially those heading south. Cars took advantage of the lack of barriers to take sharp right turns on red at speed, or to park there for ridesharing pickups/dropoffs (even more than normal). On Friday, DDOT sent some folks out who confirmed what had been reported, but did not take any temporary measures.

    With that backdrop, today showed how easy DDOT (or their contractors) could’ve done something that would’ve immeasurably improved the safety of the jobsite they left. First: on my way back home from a quick breakfast out with M, I borrowed an orange barrel from the “someday” construction site next door, to at least put one visual cue that cars should go around. Of course, an Uber driver then went around it to park, but at least had to slow down for his turn.

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    Later this morning, some friends who are far more experienced in tactical urbanism than I found some orange cones and other materials nearby, including the previously installed protections, and set up a much nicer barrier.

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    #1096345
    Judd
    Participant

    @ChristoB50 187914 wrote:

    Well, where to begin on tonight’s epic Trail Love / Trash Vendetta adventure…?!

    I packed 3 bags (“QPB’s” – Quick Pick Bags from now on) this morning and on the commute in, pondered where to focus my evening efforts along 4 Mile Run, now that I’d completed a nice full pass from Mt. Vernon Ave to W. Glebe. The winds had certainly brought more trash back to these same areas, though not as bad as originally, so riding home I decided to start that stretch again, returning to my first QPB location (just east of the Mt. Vernon underpass.) This time, I worked on the “upper trail” – those 2 little connecting spurs of trail that let you reach Mt. Vernon Ave vs. going under it.

    Plenty of trash against the low brick wall there that runs along the S. Glebe sidewalk; a full pair of gloves, a t-shirt and a duffel bag for my growing Trash Virtual Wardrobe. That filled the first bag. I moved down to the lower trail and the slope that runs between upper and lower pavements… I spotted a $5 bill in the grass. Pocketed that bad boy, figuring the Trail Gods were being munificent. A few trash items later, I spotted a $1 bill! And sure enough, 10 feet away ANOTHER $5-er! For a total of $11 bucks found, in a nice twist on this great pay-it-forward idea… because conveniently that amount is just enough to cover the yoga donation (benefits the 4MR Conservatory) at my next 4 Mile Run Farmer’s Market yoga session, 3/10!

    Moving to the underpass for my next QPB, I started filling another bag. As I was done with it, I heard “That must be Chris!” from behind, and who should roll up to stop but @reji, The Originator of the QPB and thus my mentor! As you’d expect from The Originator, she whipped out a bag and we started working on the west side of the underpass. I filled one more bag there, as did she, and my third bag completed by retracing the path back through the underpass — I always spot trash I missed this way — the light hits things differently, walking in either direction.

    AS IF ALL THAT WEREN’T ENOUGH… Wait, there’s still more…!
    With a little nudge during our brief meeting tonight, I took on the responsibility of becoming an unexpected ward of Giraffey as well! My first foray into Calvinball, and I’ll barely get any work done tomorrow, pondering what to do next with Giraffey…!

    Trail Booty!
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    Yessir, yessir, three bags full!
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    The Originator (r) and one very excited follower (l)!
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    Giraffey warming up again
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    Chris B gets two points for a solo act of trail maintenance. One extra point for the future donation of a small fortune of cash to the Four Mile Run Conservatory. One more point because I like when people run into each other on the trail. 4 points!
    Robyne gets two points for a solo act of trail maintenance. Two bonus points for showing up to mentor your QPB protege. 4 points!

    #1096346
    Judd
    Participant

    @ChristoB50 187974 wrote:

    3 more QPB’s after dropping Giraffey off… all picked up along “my stretch” of 4MR… “my” used here as a term of endearment, not by any means implying exclusive quick-picks support on that stretch!

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    Chris B gets two points for a solo act of trail maintenance. One more additional point is awarded for adopting this section of the trail and yelling at kids to quit throwing trash on his lawn. 3 points!

    #1096347
    Judd
    Participant

    @Boomer2U 188049 wrote:

    I rode my bike to a well attended advocacy meeting tonight in Fairfax VA hosted by @BikeFairfax (aka FABB) with VDOT and Fairfax County officials about the proposed I-66 Trail Outside the Beltway, as well as plans by FFX county to connect to it from outside the I-66 corridor, and an update on trail upgrades Inside the Beltway. There were a number of cyclists there, including FABB reps, and I chatted with Cathy M (whom I believe is participating in BAFS2019).

    I’m not a very good bump on a log unless I’m sleeping through a meeting, so I asked a few question like “why not switch the sound barrier and trail barrier between motorized vehicles and pedestrians/cyclists since it uses existing space more safely?” (…no, because the homeowners won that NIMBY battle already with the elected county supervisors); “what do all the different color codes and symbols mean on your PowerPoint maps?” (…a legend will be provided in an updated version); “can you please upload your coded maps with legend on the web?” (…yes, but not yet); and, “how do you determine when to approve payments to the contractor and manage delivery risk if your contracts do not include any performance milestones?” (…lengthy discussion on the basics of public-private partnerships and who bears the risk…buy me several beers if you want to unpack this one!).

    It was good to see such good coordination between VDOT, their lead contractor, Fairfax County and FABB (@BikeFairfax). They are trying to do the right thing for cyclists/pedestrians within the constraints of motorists and property owners who don’t want any of this in their backyard (NIMBYs…not in my backyard) and money left over after the cars take the lion’s share.

    While the basic parameters have been defined, contracts negotiated, and construction already underway on some sections of the 22 miles to be reconstructed, there are still lots of finer details yet to be defined re where exactly the trail will go, if it is at/below/above grade with vehicular traffic, and exactly what kind of physical barrier will separate people from motorized vehicles (though current standard is a 50 inch high concrete barrier–when at grade). There will be lots more public meetings where you can ask questions and provide input/feedback. This is especially true of the “outside corridor” trails and cycle tracks to be built by Fairfax County to feed into the I-66 trail and connect to Vienna and Dunn Loring MetroRail stations.

    On a closing note, this is probably the single most significant opportunity to get non-motorized modes of transportation built along the I-66 corridor in my almost 30 years of bike commuting along that route. Another opportunity like this probably won’t come around for another generation. I encourage you engage and make a lasting difference that will benefit cyclists/peds for years to come.

    Find out more info here: https://fabb-bikes.org/project/i66-trail/cdf313d2531731d416781b383cbc8d1f.jpge009e78691c53acb7f69f6a8478fe07a.jpg944ef134828afdd6c48d7d5b33b19a31.jpg9c66c92a0d088bc5a9b4aca0c4eda1ec.jpg

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    Boomer gets 4 points for attending a trail advocacy meeting. An additional point has been awarded for asking questions at the meeting. One more point has been added for providing a thorough recap and pictures. 6 points!

    #1096348
    Judd
    Participant

    @Emm 188099 wrote:

    I humbly submit this for QOT points:

    On Monday, I attended an Alexandria Traffic and Parking Board meeting, and spoke on behalf of making the MVT safer by banning right turn on reds at the entrance of the Porto Vecchio condominium (southern most trail crossing of the MVT before it goes from Alexandria into Fairfax County). It was terrifying, but it was successful! The Alexandria Traffic and Parking board unanimously voted to recommend banning right turn on reds at this intersection. Now it goes to the city who will hopefully install the sign asap.

    Rootchopper also spoke about getting hit by a driver at this intersection, and Zack D from BPAC also spoke on behalf of banning right turn on reds. 2 members of the condo association spoke as well, although they were against this change.

    In case you’re wondering, this is the typed up version of what I said.


    Hi, my name is EMM. I’m here on behalf of the Friends of the Mount Vernon trail, a volunteer organization that works to improve the Mount Vernon trail for all users. I’m also a regular user of the MVT, and am here to support the banning of right on reds at this intersection.

    Between 300 and 400 thousand pedestrians and cyclists used the trail right outside this intersection, as evidenced by Alexandria’s bike and pedestrian counter data. This intersection is a very busy stretch on the MVT, and is a key connection between Alexandria and Fairfax County.

    Due to the poor sight lines for drivers turning right out of Porto Vecchio at this intersection, it is an inherently risky intersection for people who walk and bike. The landscaping work the condo help a little with improving driver sight lines, but it has not materially improved this situation–within the last year I have known at least one person who has been hit by a car trying to turn right on red at this intersection, and I have had numerous near misses myself when cars failed to yield to walkers and bikers while trying to turn right on red here. Just last weekend I had to swerve around a car that was completely blocking the crosswalk in an attempt to see far enough down the parkway to turn right, forcing me and numerous joggers to enter the GW parkway to avoid the car.

    In order to limit the inconvenience to residents of Porto Vecchio, the friends of the MVT supports adjusting the light cycle so that Porto Vecchio residents have a shorter gap between green lights. We’d also support giving Porto Vecchio a leading green to de-conflict them with bus traffic that is trying to turn left out of the building across the parkway. We also strongly recommend changing the left turn signal for southbound drivers to be red when bikes and pedestrians have the right of way on the trail. This will further improve the safety of bikes and pedestrians crossing at this intersection.

    Ideally, when people walking or on bikes have a walk signal or green bike signal, drivers will not be turning right on red out of Porto Vecchio, or left into Porto Vechio from the parkway. This will also give drivers the knowledge that they have the complete right of way when leaving or turning left into Porto Vecchio, and minimize their risk of sudden stops or crashes with bikes and walkers.

    Making this change is consistent with Alexandria’s Vision Zero plan to prevent death and serious injury, and is crucial for keeping trail users safe, so I urge you to support changing the sign at this intersection a complete ban for right on reds.

    Erin gets 4 points for attending a trail advocacy meeting. An additional 6 points have been awarded for doing lots of work to prepare testimony, coordinate testimony with other speakers and give her first advocacy speech in front of a government body. 10 points!

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