Pointless prize #FS2021coffeesnobride

[Steve O]

At first I thought this was a contest for confirmed bachelors: Coffees, no bride

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[JoM]

Stopped off at Vigilante Coffee for a soy latte and carrot cake muffin.
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[Boomer Cycles]

I have flown by several times and never stopped by **Firehook Bakery ** in Alexandria VA until today, and Holy Quaxapalooza! I had no idea what I had been missing!! Great coffee, and phenomenal baked goodies galore! This will now be a regular stop for me, as it has ample indoor space despite its smallish footprint, and outdoor canopy in which to take shelter, and best of all, a bike rack!!!

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[Brownws]

They have excellent coffee worthy of the snobiest snob (acai bowel great too!)

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[JoM]

Met Coffeeneuring and friends at the DC Coffee Club at Perigrine Espresso

[Kbikeva]

@chuxtr 203735 wrote:

I posted this in the Pointless Prize thread but creating a separate thread just to make sure people are aware.

I will once again sponsor the Coffee Ride pointless prize, but this year I’m calling it the Coffee Snob Ride pointless prize. For your ride to count towards the prize, hashtag your ride name on Strava with #FS2021coffeesnobride (case sensitive) and where you went for coffee (not part of the hashtag). New rule for this year is that you need to include photographic evidence on Strava that you were where you said you went for coffee. The winner (or winners if I feel like having more than one prize) is the person with the most coffee rides.

RULES:

1. Only one visit to a coffee shop counts. Meaning you can’t keep going back to the same coffee shop multiple times.
2. Starbucks is verboten! Yes, I’m a coffee snob.
3. Other chains, e.g., Peete’s, are OK but once you visit one outlet of a chain, that’s it. See #1 above.
4. Same for establishments that have more than one location, e.g., Northside Social. See #3 and #1 above.
5. No “swamp coffee,” e.g., 7-Eleven, Wawa, etc., this year. Yes, I’m a coffee snob.

You can visit as many coffee shops in a day as your body will tolerate caffeine, but for each shop to count they have to be separate rides. That means if you want to ride from shop to shop to shop on a single ride, you’ll need to end your ride, make sure it logs on Strava, and start a new ride at each shop. Make sure to hashtag each ride.

Previous winners of this prize (you know who you are) are welcome to participate but can’t win.

In the event of a tie, the tiebreaker is who rode the least miles.

So confused… there is a #FS2021coffeeride (which is the one in the list under “pointless” on the website) and there’s this one. The other one appears to be just any coffee ride, as long as the hashtag is correct. This one has more rules about no repeats, etc.

So are there really two different pointless prizes for coffee? Do I need to go back and change my #FS2021coffeeride hashtags to this one? Afterall, I’ve been following the rules and everything – thinking they were the same!

[secstate]

I’ve updated the leaderboard code for this year’s competitions. Just waiting for it to go live. I’ll submit a modification tonight or tomorrow to ensure that both hashtags are counted this year.

[Kbikeva]

@secstate 207585 wrote:

I’ve updated the leaderboard code for this year’s competitions. Just waiting for it to go live. I’ll submit a modification tonight or tomorrow to ensure that both hashtags are counted this year.

But the two hashtags have different rules – that’s what I’m trying to figure out. Do I count every time I stop at my favorite (which might be a chain) or do I count only those individual non-starbucks, etc. rides per coffee snob? One is obviously much easier to attain, if not as fun.

[secstate]

My understanding is that Coffee Snob is the only sponsored prize this year, so those rules will apply. This is really up to the prize sponsors — I’ll leave it to chuxtr to clarify but I think 2021 is the year of coffee snobbery.

[josh]

@Kbikeva 207586 wrote:

But the two hashtags have different rules – that’s what I’m trying to figure out. Do I count every time I stop at my favorite (which might be a chain) or do I count only those individual non-starbucks, etc. rides per coffee snob? One is obviously much easier to attain, if not as fun.

Considering that chuxtr has been the sponsor for these coffee-related prizes the past couple years, I think it’s a fair assumption that the rules described in this thread are the relevant rules for this year’s prize, and not last year’s rules (i.e. no swamp coffee this year). I’m pretty confident that the prohibition on repeats (of a chain or not), has been prohibited for a while. I’m sure he’ll step in to confirm, though.

[Kbikeva]

@josh 207591 wrote:

Considering that chuxtr has been the sponsor for these coffee-related prizes the past couple years, I think it’s a fair assumption that the rules described in this thread are the relevant rules for this year’s prize, and not last year’s rules (i.e. no swamp coffee this year). I’m pretty confident that the prohibition on repeats (of a chain or not), has been prohibited for a while. I’m sure he’ll step in to confirm, though.

Yes, I’d love to hear his “final answer” on it. For people new to this, the precedents aren’t always clear. And since the text I quoted that is from the freezingsaddles.org pointless prizes tab was written by *someone* the question is in the air. In the meantime, I’ll go change my hashtags.

[josh]

@Kbikeva 207602 wrote:

Yes, I’d love to hear his “final answer” on it. For people new to this, the precedents aren’t always clear. And since the text I quoted that is from the freezingsaddles.org pointless prizes tab was written by *someone* the question is in the air. In the meantime, I’ll go change my hashtags.

It’s probably too late now, and I could be wrong, but I thought that secstate implied that they would change the leaderboard code to count rides with either the old or new hashtag, so you changing hashtags would be unnecessary work on your end. The only reason to change them would’ve been if rides were tagged according to the wrong ruleset/criteria.

[Kbikeva]

@josh 207662 wrote:

It’s probably too late now, and I could be wrong, but I thought that secstate implied that they would change the leaderboard code to count rides with either the old or new hashtag, so you changing hashtags would be unnecessary work on your end. The only reason to change them would’ve been if rides were tagged according to the wrong ruleset/criteria.

I have no idea how the inner workings of the leaderboard code are arranged. My point is that if someone was following what was up there already, the rules were that they could go to literally the same coffeeshop every time and count it. Under the Chuxtr rules, that would count once only. So if the code changes to make those all the same, it negates that rule for those times past the first one.

I didn’t have so many hashtags that it mattered in terms of the work involved. I find it challenging to find distinct coffee shops that aren’t swill that aren’t starbucks and that occur at a point in my ride where I’m willing to stop — knowing that I’m going to have to get back on the bike to finish after (often) getting chilled stopping. It’s a delicate balance of time/energy/sweat/and coffee dependency.

On the grand scale of things, the points are pointless and don’t matter. I’m not concerned about the prizes for myself – I just want to make sure that if I’m playing a game, I understand the rules I’m supposed to be following.

[Kbikeva]

AUUUGGHH! Yet another deviation. Let me see if I can explain the issue clearly.

1. Chuxtr’s instructions say:

I will once again sponsor the Coffee Ride pointless prize, but this year I’m calling it the Coffee Snob Ride pointless prize. For your ride to count towards the prize, hashtag your ride name on Strava with #FS2021coffeesnobride (case sensitive) and where you went for coffee (not part of the hashtag). New rule for this year is that you need to include photographic evidence on Strava that you were where you said you went for coffee. The winner (or winners if I feel like having more than one prize) is the person with the most coffee rides.

2. There is a page at freezingsadddles.org/pointless/hashtag/coffeesnobride that says:

Leaderboard for all rides hashtagged #coffeesnobride

It has 3 people on it

3. There is a page at freezingsaddles.org/pointless/hashtag/coffeeride that says:

Leaderboard for the BAFS 2021 Coffee Ride prize
Note that the hashtag to appear on this list is #FS2021coffeeride

It has 15 people on it

4. There is NO PAGE at freezingsaddles.org/pointless/hashtag/FS2021coffeesnobride — which was the original instruction (see #1 above)

[Kbikeva]

@Kbikeva 207721 wrote:

AUUUGGHH! Yet another deviation. Let me see if I can explain the issue clearly.

1. Chuxtr’s instructions say:

I will once again sponsor the Coffee Ride pointless prize, but this year I’m calling it the Coffee Snob Ride pointless prize. For your ride to count towards the prize, hashtag your ride name on Strava with #FS2021coffeesnobride (case sensitive) and where you went for coffee (not part of the hashtag). New rule for this year is that you need to include photographic evidence on Strava that you were where you said you went for coffee. The winner (or winners if I feel like having more than one prize) is the person with the most coffee rides.

2. There is a page at freezingsadddles.org/pointless/hashtag/coffeesnobride that says:

Leaderboard for all rides hashtagged #coffeesnobride

It has 3 people on it

3. There is a page at freezingsaddles.org/pointless/hashtag/coffeeride that says:

Leaderboard for the BAFS 2021 Coffee Ride prize
Note that the hashtag to appear on this list is #FS2021coffeeride

It has 15 people on it

4. There is NO PAGE at freezingsaddles.org/pointless/hashtag/FS2021coffeesnobride — which was the original instruction (see #1 above)

Thank you — this has literally been fixed in the last 10 minutes!

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