Pointless Prize: Civil War History
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January 11, 2021 at 12:54 am #1108829
BicycleBeth
Participant@AlanA 204823 wrote:
Just me again with another silly question.
Using your example: “Lee” Street appears in multiple cities in the region. You could ride “Lee” Street in 5 different cities on 5 different days and have them all count.
Does any street marked as “Lee” count? Or the same with Lincoln or any other last name that could be associated with the Civil War. Lee is a very common name, and could have been named for Charles Lee who happened to own the land around the road. How do we actually know that a street with only a last name is named for a Civil War person? If I find “E Lincoln St, Oregon, WI 53575” will that count? (lol, and yes, I did find that street online).
Again, just checking to see what I have to work with. It’s a long way until the end of Winter and I may have to get creative, and I don’t want to break any rules.
Hi Alan A,
I’ve struggled with this same question since it’s hard to show the exact origin of many street names. For example, the Carroll family goes back to before the Declaration of Independence in the state of Maryland but a specific Carroll, Gen. Carroll, was in the Union Army. Since I know the origin of Carroll and Old Carroll St in Takoma Park to be related to Gen. Carroll, they would both count. However, there are cities, towns, and counties named (and probably streets in them) after other members of the Carroll family that maybe shouldn’t count.
So unless there is clear evidence to the contrary that a street is named for a different Lee, Grant, Lincoln, Sheridan, Jackson, Stuart, Mosby, Reno, Tubman, Douglass, John Brown, Jubal Early, Stevens, Franklin, Longstreet, etc, etc, then for this game the street name will count as a civil war key figure. Be sure to explain, as usual, who your key figure was. If you think the provenance of the name is highly suspect, then you may want to choose another but my reviews are unlikely to catch this except in the most egregious cases.So there’s a Jackson Ave near me. I don’t know if it’s named for Andrew Jackson or Stonewall Jackson or another Jackson altogether. Since I can’t find the origin online easily, I will assume that it is for Stonewall Jackson for the purposes of this game.
The most important part of this game is learning more about history and helping others learn more in the process.
I hope that helps!
Beth
January 11, 2021 at 12:58 am #1108831Boomer Cycles
ParticipantProvence indisputable! #civilwarstreet – Sharpsburg MD
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January 11, 2021 at 1:19 am #1108836AlanA
Participant@Boomer2U 204839 wrote:
Provence indisputable! #civilwarstreet – Sharpsburg MD
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Perfect timing for that picture!! So far my only streets have included the full name, but those are very limited. It would certainly be more difficult to have only streets with the full name.
Oh, and by the way. I don’t see a bicycle in this picture!!
January 11, 2021 at 1:30 am #1108838Boomer Cycles
Participant@AlanA 203700 wrote:
I found the Landon House in Urbana today. It’s a pretty impressive building. Sadly, it’s owned by a private party and they are renovating it, so the only good view was from the front. The back looks awful.
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I didn’t see a bike, let alone a cyclist, in this pic either [emoji848]
P.S. I am one with my bike [emoji1509]
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January 11, 2021 at 2:31 am #1108854AlanA
Participant@Boomer2U 204846 wrote:
I didn’t see a bike, let alone a cyclist, in this pic either [emoji848]
P.S. I am one with my bike [emoji1509]
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I am actually playing this game through Strava and not through this page (as indicated in the rules of the game). I was just trying to make a reference to the street names in my comment. I should apologize for the “no bike” comment, as I thought your picture was great. I will just go back and hide in my little corner and just ride my bike in the future.
January 11, 2021 at 2:41 am #1108856BicycleBeth
Participant@Boomer2U 204839 wrote:
Provence indisputable! #civilwarstreet – Sharpsburg MD
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Wow! That’s definitely a General Robert E Lee street there! Great work! I’m so excited and a little jealous that you and Beth are biking through Antietam. So cool!
Beth
January 11, 2021 at 3:15 am #1108860JoM
ParticipantFound the Waterford Union of Churches Cemetery in Loudon Co. Union and Confederate soldiers, including 3 African American veterans from the Civil War.
https://waterfordcemetery.org/January 12, 2021 at 11:14 pm #1109000JoM
ParticipantFrederick Douglas recruited African Americans to fight for the Union Army, including two of his sons. He continued to work on abolishing slavery.
January 12, 2021 at 11:15 pm #1109001consularrider
Participant#CivilWarMarker – L’Ouverture Hospital, Alexandria, 1864.
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January 13, 2021 at 5:31 am #1109042BicycleBeth
ParticipantHi everyone! I love all the Strava and forum activity about the Civil War. I have a rule clarification and a resource for you all.
Rule clarification: Reconstruction counts for Civil War History just like abolitionism, slavery, and the Underground Railroad do.
Incredible resource: Historical Marker Database: https://www.hmdb.org/ You’ve got to see it to believe it! The markers are photographed, categorized, mapped, and more. You can search near you and see all markers on that subject within 50 miles of you. I’ve had luck finding Civil War related markers with these topics: Civil War, Abolitionism/Slavery, Abraham Lincoln, and African Americans so far.
Happy hunting and learning about our history!
January 13, 2021 at 3:00 pm #1109071AlanA
Participant@BicycleBeth 205068 wrote:
Hi everyone! I love all the Strava and forum activity about the Civil War. I have a rule clarification and a resource for you all.
Rule clarification: Reconstruction counts for Civil War History just like abolitionism, slavery, and the Underground Railroad do.
Incredible resource: Historical Marker Database: https://www.hmdb.org/ You’ve got to see it to believe it! The markers are photographed, categorized, mapped, and more. You can search near you and see all markers on that subject within 50 miles of you. I’ve had luck finding Civil War related markers with these topics: Civil War, Abolitionism/Slavery, Abraham Lincoln, and African Americans so far.
Happy hunting and learning about our history!
I discovered that website by just doing a search for “civil war marker” and using the town I am looking for. It is an awesome site (although, so far, I have discovered that three of the markers are no longer there). My favorite part is the exact location of the sign (picture included). Some signs are hard to find if you don’t know where they are.
January 15, 2021 at 10:15 pm #1109334bikesnick
ParticipantThe Battle of Hampton Roads took place in 1862. It was the first meeting of two ironclad warships, USS Monitor (Union) and CSS Virginia (Confederate). The Virginia was built on the hull of the USS Merrimack. The duel ended indecisively, but nations worldwide began changing shipbuilding practices.
Merrimac Drive and Monitor Lane in McLean, VA.
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Participant@bikesnick 205369 wrote:
The Battle of Hampton Roads took place in 1862. It was the first meeting of two ironclad warships, USS Monitor (Union) and CSS Virginia (Confederate). The Virginia was built on the hull of the USS Merrimack. The duel ended indecisively, but nations worldwide began changing shipbuilding practices.
Merrimac Drive and Monitor Lane in McLean, VA.
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January 17, 2021 at 12:16 pm #1109502JoM
ParticipantOn yesterday’s ride down the W&OD, I found a marker, by chance!
Moby’s Raid in 1863, on Union outpost in Herndon Station.
January 17, 2021 at 9:22 pm #1109530bikesnick
ParticipantMackall Ave (McLean, VA). William Whann Mackall was a general in the Confederate Army. Interestingly, Whann Ave is a block away.
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Salona (McLean, VA) was the home of Henry “Light Horse Harry” Lee, an officer in the Revolutionary War. Dolley Madison used the home for refuge when the British burned the White House in 1814. During the Civil War, it was used by the Union Army.
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