Pershing Drive Protected Bike Lanes
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June 18, 2017 at 6:00 pm #1072451
Brendan von Buckingham
ParticipantI hate these. Cattle chutes eventually lead to the slaughterhouse. Just a matter of time. I am not taking the bike lane between parked cars and the sidewalk just to get right hooked by a car that can’t see me.
June 19, 2017 at 2:13 pm #1072474bobco85
ParticipantI think this will be great for cyclists on Pershing Drive. Currently, when heading eastbound on Pershing, right after crossing the Washington Blvd intersection there’s about 100 or so feet where Pershing Dr bears right (causing everyone to have to turn), the bike lane hasn’t formed, and drivers cut to the inside of the “curve” which then doesn’t give enough space to ride between the parked cars and main travel lane. This design fixes that issue.
The rest of the PBL going to Barton looks like it will be more comfortable to ride in, and I like what they did for cyclists traveling westbound by putting in that bike box.
This stretch of Pershing Dr was always the least bike-friendly for me on what is otherwise a nice and straightforward bypass to the Fairfax/Wilson/Clarendon bike lanes, so I’m glad to see improvements are coming.
June 19, 2017 at 2:45 pm #1072483dasgeh
ParticipantI still think this would be better as a two-way cycle track on the north side, connecting to a contraflow bike lane on that single one-way block of 7th.
But this seems like a good compromise.
And anecdotally, I met a daily commuter who lives near Lubber Run. To get into DC, he jumps on the W&OD and either goes N to the Custis or S to the MVT, because he thinks Pershing as-is is unsafe to bike on. This is a tiptoe in the right direction.
June 19, 2017 at 2:54 pm #1072486chris_s
ParticipantThis looks great, and would be amazing if paired with a contraflow lane on 7th and a bike phase of the light to get to and from it.
June 23, 2017 at 4:11 pm #1072707cyarie
Participant@chris_s 161890 wrote:
This looks great, and would be amazing if paired with a contraflow lane on 7th and a bike phase of the light to get to and from it.
I’d actually be happy to just start with turning some of the stop signs down 7th and then 5th so I can keep my CaBi tank moving while heading down to Ballston, but that sounds nice, too
Also, I’m not convinced these will lead to more right hooks, because the plans change the intersection geometry in a way that’ll force cars making turns onto Pershing’s side streets to go much, much slower. For real, you can currently make some wide and fast turns on Cleveland and Danville; try that with the PBL layout, you’re going to catch a giant concrete planter. The current layout also allows parking right up to the intersection, which eliminates any possibility of safely turning to avoid hooks. Even if these *did* increase right hook odds (again, not convinced they do), it still eliminates dooring, and would be: a) an overall safety improvement, and b) a nice (if small) piece of bike infrastructure that’ll help convince those interested, but concerned riders to get out on a bike and go somewhere.
Sounds like an overall positive to me.
May 22, 2018 at 4:40 pm #1087480chris_s
ParticipantThere’s a public meeting about this today from 4:30pm-7:00pm at Lyon Park Community House.
Will bike folks turn out? Or will it just be neighbors complaining about parking?
May 23, 2018 at 3:03 am #1087512Judd
Participant@chris_s 178489 wrote:
There’s a public meeting about this today from 4:30pm-7:00pm at Lyon Park Community House.
Will bike folks turn out? Or will it just be neighbors complaining about parking?
I was all set to leave and then the skies opened up and persisted for most of the duration of the meeting. Doesn’t look like the opportunity to comment online is up yet, but I’ll make sure to comment as soon as it does.
May 23, 2018 at 1:15 pm #1087516chris_s
Participant@Judd 178511 wrote:
I was all set to leave and then the skies opened up and persisted for most of the duration of the meeting. Doesn’t look like the opportunity to comment online is up yet, but I’ll make sure to comment as soon as it does.
Yeah, I got REALLY, REALLY wet on my way to the meeting.
Materials and comment form are expected to be up by the end of the day today and open for comment for two weeks.
May 23, 2018 at 5:12 pm #1087517cyarie
Participant@Judd 178511 wrote:
I was all set to leave and then the skies opened up and persisted for most of the duration of the meeting. Doesn’t look like the opportunity to comment online is up yet, but I’ll make sure to comment as soon as it does.
I was also guilty of this (also, my folks are in town before we head out of it). Gonna comment when the box goes up — still really worried that plopping a median down the middle of Pershing from Barton to Wash will lead to a duplication of the s***show that exists east of Barton. Also curious to hear what the neighborhood was thinking about this, given the *actual* feedback was more split/indifferent than the CA’s original letter from a year back would indicate, but the most cantankerous and curmudgeonly voices are always the loudest…
May 28, 2018 at 3:47 am #1087613cyarie
ParticipantThe comment form is online.
They really did a number on what would have been a great bike box at Washington and Pershing, all for the sake of saving three whole parking spots.
Given my experience with the current median, Option B is still much better than Option A, but sigh — can’t help but think the “car free charade” ranters have at least a small point when this is how county staff react to pushback with these kinds of projects.
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