OK to look at other teams disscusiuons?

[Arlingtonrider]

@Raymo853 106656 wrote:

. I spend way too much time looking at Strava and http://freezingsaddles.com/

Your competitors appreciate that you use up all this time.

[Phatboing]

@Raymo853 106656 wrote:

Cool. I almost wish it was not possible to look at the other riders and such. I spend way too much time looking at Strava and http://freezingsaddles.com/ Which is why the day the contest ends on Friday March 20th will be my last Strava ride.

Or maybe Freezing Saddles gets you hooked on Strava (or, at least, recording rides). It’s happened to me, and it’s a real danger.

[creadinger]

Raymo, maybe you should get Census IT to classify freezingsaddles.com as porn like NOAA did. Therefore you won’t be able to do as much obsessing at work. Since I can’t keep up with it at work, my interest level is lower than I would like. It’s just that when I get home, I have 100 other things to do as well and freezing saddles isn’t in the top 10.

Part of the fallout is that although I’m meeting all of my personal goals so far this year, I’m not doing as well with points because I’m just not going to suit up for a 5 minute ride for 11 points every day. More power to the people who do, but I have other things to do.

[vvill]

Dismal is right – private rides will be counted (that’s why you have to authorize yourself on the FS website I think). You could just not upload or yeah mark as training + private or #nobafs + private, but that’s certainly not in the spirit of it all.

@Raymo853 106683 wrote:

I will not be taking part. Made a promise last night to my fiancee who had to wait in the car while I sleazed last night.

Get her to sign up next year?

[jopamora]

@cvcalhoun 106684 wrote:

I believe this would violate the rule against sandbagging. Discussions can be kept private, but rides cannot.

I don’t even know how to cheat properly

[hozn]

@DismalScientist 106689 wrote:

No, No, No… You are doing this all wrong. Private rides count in the scoring. What you do is mark all your rides as training (and private if you really want to disguise things) and then unmark them all on March 20.:rolleyes:

This is a great blackboxing strategy! — The only downside is you’d miss out on any Strava challenges (if you care), since they typically (always?) disqualify trainer rides. But, yeah, marking the rides as trainer rides (which I think you have to do by editing the ride after it was initially saved/processed), would be a great disguise; I don’t know that there’d be a trivial way to tell that they weren’t actual rides if folks are looking at your stream.

Yes, the scoreboard can see private rides, since effectively the scoreboard connects *as you* to Strava to request data. Private rides can’t be processed for segments or photos, though. That’s probably not surprising.

FYI, the scoreboard can also see any other information Strava knows about you [and has exposed in the API] — e.g. it knows your email address, your bikes, your age, your heartrate etc. etc. Basically, anything that you can see in the iphone/android apps is exposed in the API (they use the API for those apps). Some things, like specifics of equipment on your bikes, are not yet exposed.

I thought it might be fun to use some of the fatigue algorithms using hearrate analysis etc. out there to predict when your competitors might be wearing out. It sounded like a fun exercise, but my wife suggested that’s getting a little invasive on the privacy front. Upon reflection, I could see how that might be crossing the line.

[Raymo853]

@creadinger 106697 wrote:

Raymo, maybe you should get Census IT to classify freezingsaddles.com as porn like NOAA did. Therefore you won’t be able to do as much obsessing at work. .

It is funny, Strava is periodically blocked here at Census and then quickly unblocked. I suspect there is some Strava nut on some sort of web security review board who unblocks it.

[creadinger]

@Raymo853 106702 wrote:

It is funny, Strava is periodically blocked here at Census and then quickly unblocked. I suspect there is some Strava nut on some sort of web security review board who unblocks it.

Haha, nice. We have strava thankfully. But I just ran into a new problem, which is much worse for ride planning purposes. I can open ridewithGPS, but I can’t login to edit anything. Damnit! I used to spend hours (shhhhh, don’t tell Uncle Sam!) planning long weekend rides during lulls in the work week.

I just checked, and hilariously, I can login to Mapmyride, and create a route. Anyone know if their elevation data as caught up to the likes of ridewithgps yet? That’s why I initially made the switch away.

[Raymo853]

@jopamora 106699 wrote:

I don’t even know how to cheat properly

One strategy, not necessarily cheating, is to find single guys or girls racking up too many points and fix them up. Eric Williams’ ride titled something like “I can only do these double centuries because I don’t have a girlfriend” gave me that idea.

Eric hold old are you by the way?

[rcannon100]

@Raymo853 106704 wrote:

One strategy, not necessarily cheating, is to find single guys or girls racking up too many points and fix them up. Eric Williams’ ride titled something like “I can only do these double centuries because I don’t have a girlfriend” gave me that idea.

Eric hold old are you by the way?

I am told that this strategy has a habit of backfiring. You see, it occurs, sometimes, I’m just saying, that marriages take place and at some point spouses are seeking quality time AWAY from each other. Certain members of this forum, I’m not naming names {cough*everyone*cough} have been known to use cycling as a way of avoiding their families.

[Bruno Moore]

@Raymo853 106704 wrote:

One strategy, not necessarily cheating, is to find single guys or girls racking up too many points and fix them up. Eric Williams’ ride titled something like “I can only do these double centuries because I don’t have a girlfriend” gave me that idea.

Eric hold old are you by the way?

Sorry, no setting up our ringer until 21 March. His team captain forbids it.

[Raymo853]

@Brünø Moore 106709 wrote:

Sorry, no setting up our ringer until 21 March. His team captain forbids it.

Oh it will be benefit to your team, the woman I have in mind is a nutritionist and very fit. She is a marathon runner with a decent bike and rides like most runners I know. All freaking out for about twenty miles and then collapses.

[KayakCyndi]

@Powerful Pete 106694 wrote:

So, it’s not really stalking others on Strava, more keeping an eye on their riding and, quite frankly, being inspired to ride more because of what I see in terms of their achievements.

Oh, I’m totally stalking people on Strava. Kurt (Vicegrip) and Glenn I’m watching you!

p.s. It is not helping that they both seem to enjoy night rides ….

[Raymo853]

@Phatboing 106696 wrote:

Or maybe Freezing Saddles gets you hooked on Strava (or, at least, recording rides). It’s happened to me, and it’s a real danger.

BAFS 2014 helped increase the problem and 2015 has continued the bad trend. My Premium Account expires March 17th and it will not be renewed. I will still use Strava once in a while, but not for every commute, sashay to the store, etc. I will only miss being able to download GPX of other people’s rides.

[Vicegrip]

@Raymo853 106682 wrote:

I think that also makes them private form the BAFS system. Might be cool as all your points would show up at once and you could jump to the top with no warning.

Private or not there is the little detail that in order to jump to the front you need to ride there

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