NVRPA study on widening the W&OD at selected spots

[lordofthemark]

http://www.thewashcycle.com/2017/06/nova-parks-has-studied-widening-the-wod-trail-to-16-or-19-feet.html#comments

1. Wow. Even if only a study at this point, without identified funding, etc

2. What do you think of the benefits of the widening between EFC and Broad Street, the constraints on widening between EFC and Columbia Pike, and the relative merits of the two options?

3. How does Dave Cranor manage to find out about things that even some fairly obsessive NoVa bike advocates do not hear about?

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[Steve O]

@hozn 162088 wrote:

After all, people learn to stand on the right side of the elevators here quickly enough

I honestly didn’t know there was a place I was supposed to stand in an elevator.

[Vicegrip]

@Steve O 162142 wrote:

I honestly didn’t know there was a place I was supposed to stand in an elevator.

Same here. I thought it was move to the back, let people out before you go in and No farting.

[hozn]

@Steve O 162142 wrote:

I honestly didn’t know there was a place I was supposed to stand in an elevator.

Heh, oops (escalator of course, for our foreign readers!)

[Judd]

@Judd 162092 wrote:

Use supports widening here too. Heavy mixed use. There are some spots where widening would be a bit more difficult given the surrounding geography.

I rode from the Columbia Pike to Bikenetic today and had the opportunity to think about the trail in terms of widening. There are desire paths along the majority of the section. It’s common to see runners running alongside the trail instead of on it. There are some portions of this section that flat and at the same grade. There are a few sections where one or both sides of the trail drops off into 4MR and I imagine might require some extensive work to bring to the same grade as the trail.

[KLizotte]

Unfortunately runners hate running on concrete. They claim it is “harder” than asphalt which is often why they gravitate to the W&OD and bike lanes over sidewalks.

[mstone]

@KLizotte 162164 wrote:

Unfortunately runners hate running on concrete. They claim it is “harder” than asphalt which is often why they gravitate to the W&OD and bike lanes over sidewalks.

placebo effect is a powerful thing

[creadinger]

@mstone 162170 wrote:

placebo effect is a powerful thing

Much of the reason why homeopathy still exists, leaving scientific, evidence based doctors dumbfounded.

[vern]

@KLizotte 162164 wrote:

Unfortunately runners hate running on concrete. They claim it is “harder” than asphalt which is often why they gravitate to the W&OD and bike lanes over sidewalks.

Concrete is harder than asphalt, but human weight isn’t significant enough to really put into play the fact that concrete compresses much less than asphalt.

[mstone]

@vern 162199 wrote:

Concrete is harder than asphalt, but human weight isn’t significant enough to really put into play the fact that concrete compresses much less than asphalt.

and shoes

[DrP]

I thought the desire paths next to the trail were because runners (and some walkers, including me) didn’t want to be on either concrete or asphalt. Neither are great for the body. Although after lots of sun and no rain, I am not sure the ground around here is much softer.

[Author]

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