New Arlington County Commuter Services Campaign – What do you think?

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  • #934247
    Dirt
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    It is the right message, sir! I strive to be a better PAL and I hope others do too. Thank you.

    #934262
    culimerc
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    Nice. I like the non-adversarial tone, and 5 feet from parked cars was even more room than I thought was appropriate. Thanks for the heads up.

    #934263
    KLizotte
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    Any way to add to the graphic the following:

    1) That cars should not park or use bike lanes for stopping/driving.
    2) That runners/walkers should stay out of the bike lanes.

    #934265
    DismalScientist
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    @KLizotte 12691 wrote:

    Any way to add to the graphic the following:

    1) That cars should not park or use bike lanes for stopping/driving.
    2) That runners/walkers should stay out of the bike lanes.

    Perhaps cars should use the bike lane to make right turns and avoid the potential of a right hook.

    #934267
    DaveK
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    @DismalScientist 12693 wrote:

    Perhaps cars should use the bike lane to make right turns and avoid the potential of a right hook.

    Cars are supposed to do this – that’s one reason bike lanes are dashed approaching an intersection, so cyclists expect vehicles crossing/entering the lane to turn.

    #934272
    txgoonie
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    I’d like to see a little more emphasis on the rule that pedestrians are supposed to walk against traffic. There are a lot of streets in the area where sidewalks aren’t available and many occasions where, even if there is a sidewalk, peds, especially runners, chose to run in the street to avoid congestion/bad paving/etc. In my travels, it’s a very commonly broken practice and a super unsafe one. Either stronger language than “walk facing traffic” or a callout somewhere in the graphic.

    #934273
    americancyclo
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    I wonder how that westbound cyclist in blue is going to handle the intersection. They can try to move in to the car lane to get around the blue car turning right, but waiting for pedestrians. This might be risky, since the van in the lane will probably cut it too close to the turning blue car to allow the cyclist to pass through. Alternatively, the cyclist can risk a right hook by passing in between the turning blue car and the crosswalk.

    #934274
    jrenaut
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    Wouldn’t the legal thing to do be to wait for the car to turn?

    #934275
    DismalScientist
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    @DaveK 12696 wrote:

    Cars are supposed to do this – that’s one reason bike lanes are dashed approaching an intersection, so cyclists expect vehicles crossing/entering the lane to turn.

    Unfortunately, this painting practice is far from universal.

    #934281
    dasgeh
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    @jrenaut 12703 wrote:

    Wouldn’t the legal thing to do be to wait for the car to turn?

    I believe it is legal to enter the traffic lane if the block lane is blocked, but only if it is safe to do so. So whether the bike should move over depends on the rate of speed of the van.

    #934289
    mstone
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    @txgoonie 12701 wrote:

    I’d like to see a little more emphasis on the rule that pedestrians are supposed to walk against traffic. There are a lot of streets in the area where sidewalks aren’t available and many occasions where, even if there is a sidewalk, peds, especially runners, chose to run in the street to avoid congestion/bad paving/etc. In my travels, it’s a very commonly broken practice and a super unsafe one. Either stronger language than “walk facing traffic” or a callout somewhere in the graphic.

    I’d like to see a little more emphasis on the rule that pedestrians shouldn’t be in the street when there’s a sidewalk, even if they’re a jogger and they just don’t like the sidewalk.

    #934291
    DismalScientist
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    @mstone 12719 wrote:

    I’d like to see a little more emphasis on the rule that pedestrians shouldn’t be in the street when there’s a sidewalk, even if they’re a jogger and they just don’t like the sidewalk.

    I think this depends on the neighborhood in question. Many of the back streets in Arlington don’t have sidewalks or have discontinuous ones. People often walk in the middle of the road and, frankly I don’t see this as really an issue given the limited vehicular traffic, including bicycles.

    #934299
    RESTONTODC
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    @americancyclo 12702 wrote:

    I wonder how that westbound cyclist in blue is going to handle the intersection. They can try to move in to the car lane to get around the blue car turning right, but waiting for pedestrians. This might be risky, since the van in the lane will probably cut it too close to the turning blue car to allow the cyclist to pass through. Alternatively, the cyclist can risk a right hook by passing in between the turning blue car and the crosswalk.

    I love the “BEGIN RIGHT TURN LANE, YIELD TO BIKES” sign while I was riding in Florida.

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    #934325
    Arlingtonrider
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    Overall, while some may have quibbles, I think they did a great job. The big message is the right one.

    #934331
    mstone
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    @DismalScientist 12722 wrote:

    I think this depends on the neighborhood in question. Many of the back streets in Arlington don’t have sidewalks or have discontinuous ones. People often walk in the middle of the road and, frankly I don’t see this as really an issue given the limited vehicular traffic, including bicycles.

    Well, when there’s no sidewalk my comment doesn’t apply. :-) But in general, yeah, it’s a big issue when you’re going along and a ninja appears out of nowhere in the middle of a street. (Whether you’re driving a car or on a bike.) I don’t think these guys understand how invisible they are–at least bikes are legally required to have reflectors.

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