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April 23, 2014 at 11:08 pm #999389
mstone
ParticipantYou gonna wear this with bike clothes or normal clothes?
April 23, 2014 at 11:14 pm #999390nelsondb
ParticipantApril 24, 2014 at 12:44 am #999394mstone
ParticipantI forgot to add the other important question: how far are you planning to ride? There’s a basic tradeoff between ability to walk on and off the bike. If the sole of the shoe is really stiff, you’re less likely to get hot spots from pedal pressure after long rides. But you’ll walk like a duck.
If this is for commuting/casual riding (<30 miles) take a look at Shimano's Touring/Treking line: http://www.shimano-lifestylegear.com/us/fw/products/tour/index.php The CT40 and MT34 are decent entry levels, and as you work your way up in those lines you’re mostly paying for different closure systems and styling. The CTs are oriented a bit more toward walking, and the MTs a bit stiffer.
If you’re planning a bit more intensive riding (~60 miles) look at the M088 or RT32. The former has more tread, the latter is a bit lighter.
Riding much further than that, get something stiff and bring a change of shoes if you really need to walk a significant distance or climb stairs.
None of this is hard and fast, or absolute. It’s certainly possible to ride long distances on floppy shoes, and it makes no sense to invest in expensive shoes for occasional rides. It does help to have some idea of what kind of riding you’re planning to do, and what kind of shoe would be optimal. (It also helps to know what kind of riding people recommending shoes are doing, to see whether it’s relevant to what you’re planning.) Also, this is something I absolutely wouldn’t buy online. Find a shop, try some on–the sizing is really subjective, and if it doesn’t feel right, it’s not going to feel any better after a couple hours on a bike.
April 24, 2014 at 2:10 am #999396cyclingfool
ParticipantI like my Shimano MT33 MTB SPD compatible shoes.
1) has some walkability (like up a few flights of stairs or a couple of blocks)
They have recessed cleats, which makes walking off the bike easy. The cleats crunch a little on concrete sidewalks, but are otherwise quiet.
2) is good for wide flat feet
I have wide feet. Like 4E wide. I ordered a size or two up (like 46 instead of 44) and they’ve worked well for me.
3) SPD compatible.
Check.
4) preferably made from synthetic/non-animal products
Check.
Appears they’re out of production now and size choices may be limited, but it also means there appear to be some good closeout deals.
April 24, 2014 at 2:39 am #999397TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantI just picked up Giro’s new Terraduros and they are a revelation. They have a flat Vibram sole, but the insert and upper are like regular MTB shoes, so they’re super stiff on the bike, but incredibly walkable. They’re even more comfortable to walk in than my Chromes, which are billed more as a street shoe with SPD compatibility. On the bike they’re amazing, since they’re pretty stiff, so you can really feel the effective power transfer.
As far as I can tell, they fit all your criteria. And they come in red, which is cool.
April 24, 2014 at 1:27 pm #999412Phatboing
ParticipantI have a pair of Specialized Tahoes, which fit my wide flipper feet quite nicely. The sole’s not stiff like the more fancypants shoes, but it gets the job done both on- and off-bike. I also didn’t use them much by the time I gave up on SPDs, so if you’re a size 43 (US 9.5 I think), you could consider maybe buying them off me (complete with shiny new cleats, even).
April 24, 2014 at 3:35 pm #999441hozn
ParticipantI have a pair of Specialized Touring shoes – “sport” level – (I think they call them something else now), which are SPD compatible but have a smoother bottom than MTB shoes. They are not especially stiff (“6” on their stiffness scale — which I think goes to 10?), but they work fine. Specialized shoes fit wider feet (and they also have a “wide” in some models, though it’s not wide where I need it, so I tend to just size up). These are very walkable. I used to have a set of the Shimano touring shoes which were also fine, but those don’t fit me as well (the regular version was too narrow).
I was chatting with vvill about shoes/cleats this AM. I think really any shoe that isn’t soft/flexible like a running shoe is going to be fine on the bike. Same goes for the cleats (SPD vs Look). I would have no hesitation to ride 100 miles in these touring shoes, though typically trips on that bike are less than 50; I typically use them for commuting but also use them for off-road riding. I can feel them flex a little, especially on out of saddle climbs, but it isn’t a problem. That said, I do enjoy stiff shoes when riding and really don’t do that much walking in bike shoes so I will probably get a stiffer set of Specialized MTB shoes when these wear out.
April 24, 2014 at 4:07 pm #999447n18
ParticipantI use Shimano SH-CT45 at the link that mstone posted, but I am new to cycling shoes. It’s very comfortable and breathable so it’s going to be good for summer time, although not for heavy rain. I could walk and stand on it for 2 hours easily. I am 5’2″, 185 lbs. Shoe size is usually 8.5 Wide, but size 43 fits me perfectly. It’s not very stiff(Stiffness Index=3), and despite being a perfect fit, I have a hard time unclipping, but like I said I am new to this. They make load cracking noises when I walk on sidewalks because of sand from winter treatment of roads and sidewalks, but this is gradually going away as the sand is blown away by wind and rain. On roads, they don’t make any noises. There are no SPD cleat covers in stores, only online, and they don’t last very long.
Almost nobody carries wide sizes, but those who ask for wide sizes usually find that regular sizes fit them just fine, but not every brand fit wide feet the same as others, so try them in store. I think that these are supposed to fit you like a glove, to improve power transfer. If you feel free movement when you shift your feet right and left or up and down, or you are not tying your shoe laces too tight, then that size may be too big for you.
You didn’t post if you are new to this, or whether you use the sidewalk, or the road mostly. If you come to a sudden stop for any reason(and this happens more often on sidewalks rather than roads), then you could fall if you don’t unclip in time. The first time I used it I fell, hurt my knee while stopping for someone on the sidewalk and forgetting to unclip. Now I am just restricting it to trial and some road use, and using knee pads just in case.
I use that shoes with Shimano A530 pedals(One side SPD, the other platform/flat), Performance Bike just started carrying them for $60, but they are not in their stores yet. I paid $64 for mine at REI with a 20% off coupon.
Again, please post if you are new to this, or whether you use the sidewalk, or the road mostly, and height/weight if possible.
April 25, 2014 at 2:54 am #999500nelsondb
Participant@TwoWheelsDC 83348 wrote:
I just picked up Giro’s new Terraduros and they are a revelation. They have a flat Vibram sole, but the insert and upper are like regular MTB shoes, so they’re super stiff on the bike, but incredibly walkable. They’re even more comfortable to walk in than my Chromes, which are billed more as a street shoe with SPD compatibility. On the bike they’re amazing, since they’re pretty stiff, so you can really feel the effective power transfer.
As far as I can tell, they fit all your criteria. And they come in red, which is cool.
Those look and sound great. Which bike shops around Alexandria/Arlington/DC area sell them?
April 25, 2014 at 12:24 pm #999506TwoWheelsDC
Participant@nelsondb 83456 wrote:
Those look and sound great. Which bike shops around Alexandria/Arlington/DC area sell them?
Um, not sure, to be honest. I got them online since I was pretty certain of the sizing. I know that Freshbikes carries Giro, so they may stock them or be able to order them, and let you try other Giros on to figure out what size you need.
April 25, 2014 at 1:45 pm #999512vvill
Participant@hozn 83394 wrote:
I was chatting with vvill about shoes/cleats this AM. I think really any shoe that isn’t soft/flexible like a running shoe is going to be fine on the bike. Same goes for the cleats (SPD vs Look). I would have no hesitation to ride 100 miles in these touring shoes, though typically trips on that bike are less than 50; I typically use them for commuting but also use them for off-road riding. I can feel them flex a little, especially on out of saddle climbs, but it isn’t a problem. That said, I do enjoy stiff shoes when riding and really don’t do that much walking in bike shoes so I will probably get a stiffer set of Specialized MTB shoes when these wear out.
Yeah my thinking (after now having had a bike fit) is that any bike shoe will work as long as you fit well in your shoe, but this doesn’t just mean the length and width – the shapes of both of your feet have to be taken into account separately. It sounds kind of obvious/rudimentary to me now, but as of 2 days ago I’m riding with two different arch supports in my bike shoes (left side is more arched) and I’m not sure it couldn’t still be improved.
The stiffness of the shoes will affect your efficiency but my feeling is I’m fine commuting in my softer soled shoes as long as I have the fit correct. That said, I’m also planning to eventually* get a pair of stiffer 2-bolt/MTB/commuter shoe. Mostly for gravel rides, or longer rides where I may be walking/stopping a lot.
* I have 6 pairs of bike shoes already not including 1 old pair of Specialized MTB shoes and 1 new pair of LG shoes I bought online that’s too small.
April 27, 2014 at 2:02 am #999598nelsondb
ParticipantHozn, is this the pair you have? http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftr/shoes/road-shoes/sport-road
April 27, 2014 at 2:07 pm #999614hozn
Participant@nelsondb 83566 wrote:
Hozn, is this the pair you have? http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftr/shoes/road-shoes/sport-road
No, those have 3-bolt cleat interface, I believe. I think this is now what Specialized calls the touring shoe: http://m.specialized.com/us/en/ftr/shoes/road-shoes/sport-rbx
July 23, 2014 at 12:42 pm #1006461power2weightcycling
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These shimano sandals are great for flipper feet, 13EEEE, walk well, don’t mar the floor, tough in the snow however.July 23, 2014 at 1:59 pm #1006475Powerful Pete
ParticipantI am a Sidi and Giro man when it comes to road shoes, but all those that I own are less than practical for anything more than ordering your espresso midway through your ride.
I picked up a pair of Specialized “recreation” shoes for my commuting – they look like a discontinued version of what is now the Tahoe – and are perfectly adequate for commuting – I use them with SPDs and am able to walk relatively well.
Would not want to use them on a Saturday AM fast ride, but for city/commuting they are an excellent choice.
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