MGM Casino – National Harbor to include 130 bike parking spaces, in theory
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August 15, 2015 at 9:53 pm #1035836
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ParticipantNational Harbor was built for car access only. The whole development is sealed off from the rest of PG County so even walking there is difficult. Parking, of course, is not free. Parking fees seem to be part of the business model.
You won’t have to use the crushed shell trail to get to MGM. It is already accessible via paved trail, but there will be an eventually busy street to cross to actually get there. I don’t expect any crosswalks. That’s just not the way this place was designed. I wonder how people are supposed to get from National Harbor to MGM. I imagine a shuttle bus system. Walking or cycling does not seem to part of the plan. The whole transportation plan seems really poorly thought out.
August 15, 2015 at 11:12 pm #1035837Kolohe
ParticipantParking won’t be free? Every casino I’ve ever been to in the US has huge-a, uh huge-acre parking garages with free parking.
August 16, 2015 at 4:00 am #1035843Oldtowner
ParticipantParking is definitely not free at National Harbor, but I assume will be free at MGM. It’s just not easy to get from one to the other except by car.
August 16, 2015 at 12:34 pm #1035847Kolohe
ParticipantOh ok. I misread what you said, sorry.
August 16, 2015 at 1:50 pm #1035849Starduster
Participant“…the connection to National Harbor is a crushed shell path that can be very hard on skinny road tires.” And the last time I rode there, you couldn’t ride any farther than an *unmarked* point outside the harbor’s plaza. They weren’t very bicycle friendly then. Has it changed?
August 16, 2015 at 7:31 pm #1035857PotomacCyclist
ParticipantI haven’t been over there in a while, maybe not since last year. I’ve been able to get over to the street network in the main NH development before. Maybe the security guards missed me on those days. Or maybe I walked the bike through the sidewalk area before getting to the street. I don’t remember.
I think the security guards only spoke to me on a couple occasions. On others, I didn’t have any problems, but maybe that was just luck and the guards were on a different block at those times.
All I remember is that on some trips, I’ve been able to ride all over National Harbor on the mountain bike.
August 17, 2015 at 2:46 pm #1035899jabberwocky
ParticipantI used to ride there occasionally, but after getting regularly harassed by the security guards on a few occasions I stopped. They clearly don’t want bikes there, and I’m happy to patronize businesses elsewhere.
August 17, 2015 at 3:21 pm #1035908TwoWheelsDC
ParticipantI think this quote sums up how out of touch MGM is here…
More than 550,000 cubic yards of earth excavated from site – enough to fill Ravens Stadium in Baltimore
August 17, 2015 at 5:07 pm #1035935Anonymous
GuestI’ve ridden in National Harbor a couple times and not been stopped or harassed, but it is clearly designed to be accessed by car and only by car. It is fenced off from the surrounding neighborhoods, with only one way in; people who live what should be easy walking distance (and certainly biking distance) instead of being able to just walk over have to drive 4 or 5 miles around the perimeter to enter (and, yes, then park in the garages). If there are bike racks anywhere other than the end of the gravel path, I can’t remember seeing them. I attended a conference there for work a couple months ago and rode there (with trailer full of display props, so I needed something other than a signpost on the sidewalk to lock up to). Rode up to the hotel entrance and asked the parking valet where the closest bike rack was. He had no idea. He helped me find a spot (actually he moved a bench out of the way to make room) to lock up to a fence in front of the hotel, but there was no place actually intended for me to park my bike.
August 18, 2015 at 3:44 am #1036009KLizotte
ParticipantI’ve never had a problem with security but I do wish there was a paved trail all the way to the complex from the bridge. There are bike racks located throughout the property (next to the streets) although they could certainly use more in prime locations, esp in the more pedestrianized areas. I like to ride there for lunch or early dinner cause it’s a nice, pleasant ride (until I hit the seashells). I won’t drive there because the parking fees are high even though I support the concept of requiring drivers to pay for all parking so that they internalize that cost. It’s free if I bike there! Wish there were more healthy food available.
August 18, 2015 at 8:34 pm #1036077Subby
ParticipantLooking forward to biking to MGM casino and pwning dumbass tourists and then using my winnings to buy a sweetass ride. /lifegoals
August 19, 2015 at 12:33 am #1036091Rod Smith
ParticipantIt’s a nice climb from the Wilson Bridge to Oxon Farm which has a dirt road downhill to secluded Oxon Cove. Very nice. There is some more dirt further down the trail, not much, a little flat singletrack and a small creek crossing. Stop at National Harbor? No thanks, just passing through.
August 28, 2015 at 10:43 pm #1036688mattotoole
ParticipantI’ve ridden over there a lot from Alexandria. I don’t mind the gravel path, even on rainy days (it’s cleaner than road dirt). And the bike parking is already better than average for the DC area, with good bike racks right in front of the major businesses.
IIRC, there are signs banning riding on the paths through the property. This is no different from Washington Harbor, where I’m pretty sure I would be stopped. I’ve slow-rolled all around National Harbor without any problems. Maybe they’re amenable to dialing this back a little.
Lack of connectivity to surrounding neighborhoods is no different from malls and bigbox store properties across America. Mostly it’s just not being considered, unless bike advocates speak up. Who might that be in that part of PG County, besides WABA?
Admittedly, casinos and Walmarts don’t like connectivity. They’d rather keep it easier to just stay on the property, to spend all your money there. Old Town’s restaurants and bars may be a competitive threat, but a bike path into Ft. Washington may help bring the the neighborhood in to enjoy the restaurants, cafes and other attractions.
Sell the benefits.
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