Le Tour de France 2014

Our Community Forums General Discussion Le Tour de France 2014

Viewing 15 posts - 76 through 90 (of 122 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1005942
    Harry Meatmotor
    Participant

    @PotomacCyclist 90312 wrote:

    Cancellara is dropping out of the Tour too, but not because of injury. Apparently, he had planned a potential early departure all along. His focus is on the world championships later this season. Mixed reactions to this on the Webz. A pro athlete has to do what’s best for his overall goals, but it’s disappointing to lose yet another big name from this year’s Tour.

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/07/news/fabian-cancellara-will-start-stage-11-tour_336461

    I get the feeling this season has been a bit of a wash for Faboo – once the UCI decided to change the rules regarding the individual hour TT, which he had been training for all season, he was kinda left with nothing to shoot for. I kinda got the feeling that his efforts during the spring classics were more to stay upright and not break any bones than to get any wins. Same for stage 6 in lay tewer day frains. The WC is probably the only big race he’s capable of winning, so he might as well focus his efforts.

    #1005944
    Harry Meatmotor
    Participant

    @PotomacCyclist 90310 wrote:

    I pointed out earlier that I sort of get burned out mentally from following the 3-week Tour. I don’t have much mental energy to devote to following the Vuelta, even when I still had Universal Sports. I also noticed that many of the top cyclists tended to focus on the Tour or the Giro, which takes some of the luster off of the Vuelta. There are still a lot of great riders at the Vuelta, but it just feels different when you know that some of the top athletes in the sport choose to focus on a different stage race instead.

    I’ve always looked at the vuelta as a way to watch some of the domestiques get their shot at a major stage race win. it kinda lets you learn more about the riders who did the work during the tour or the giro – those guys riding themselves inside out for whoever the GC candidate is get a chance to bolster their palmares in the vuelta.

    #1005949
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    I was totally not thinking when I posted that about the Vuelta. Now it seems that the big guns will actually be competing at the Vuelta this year, instead of the Tour de France. Although Contador has a broken tibia, he may now be ready to ride again in three weeks. He already tweeted that he was looking forward to racing in the Vuelta this summer. Chris Froome tweeted to Contador that he hoped to see him at the Vuelta.

    So it could be Froome vs. Contador at this year’s Vuelta, assuming both can recover from their injuries. If so, both could be relatively fresh. They didn’t build up too much fatigue because they crashed out in the first half of the Tour. (Today is the halfway point of the race.)

    #1006164
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    Andrew Talansky felt the effects of the weekend crashes in yesterday’s stage. He started falling back, behind the peloton, behind the team cars and eventually behind everyone. Before the start of the Tour, he had been considered a contender for a top 10 overall finish, but the crashes took a lot out of him. His left elbow is wrapped in a loose binding and he has other bruises and wounds.

    Observers were unsure whether Talansky would be able to finish the stage within the time limit. (Riders have to finish within a certain percentage of the winning time or else they are forced to leave the Tour. There is more leeway on mountain stages than on flat stages. The judges can also allow someone to remain in the Tour if they think he has put up a valiant fight after a crash or other serious challenge.) He finished more than 30 minutes behind the stage winner, but under the 37:12 cutoff.

    He had to stop at one point because of his lower back. The team directors said that he could either abandon the Tour or continue the stage. After he finished, he continued to be in a lot of pain during the post-race interview. It didn’t appear that he would be able to continue with the race, and today, he did not start the stage. So another top name is out of this year’s Tour.

    While Talansky was not considered to be one of the very top contenders, he is considered to be an up-and-coming rider, and one of the top American riders. He finished in 10th place overall in last year’s Tour. He won the Criterium du Dauphine (an important lead-up to the Tour) this year.

    #1006267
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    What not to do?

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6221[/ATTACH]

    “Luca Paolini decides to text and ride in Stage 8 of Le Tour de France (h/t @grahamwatson10)”

    #1006291
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    Jack Bauer and Martin Elmiger went out on a breakaway in Stage 15. Not too unusual. But they managed to lead the peloton for 220 kilometers (137 miles), nearly the entire length of the stage. Elmiger got swept up by the sprinters in the last kilometer, but Bauer continued to ride ahead. But he too was caught, just 30 meters from the finish. He would have been the first cyclist from New Zealand to win a stage at the Tour de France. Amazing but heartbreaking finish.

    http://www.nbcsports.com/kristoff-wins-tours-flat-stage-15-nibali-leads

    #1006303
    cyclingfool
    Participant

    @PotomacCyclist 90663 wrote:

    What not to do?

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]6221[/ATTACH]

    “Luca Paolini decides to text and ride in Stage 8 of Le Tour de France (h/t @grahamwatson10)”

    Teah, texting while riding the TdF is pretty dumb. But I like that he rocks the beard! I listen to a ITV Tour podcast for additional interviews and analysis post-stage, and they, among other things, noted that it was funny that he rocks the beard while wearing an aero helmet. Wonder if he tested the relative aerodynamic effects of beard vs. no beard? :D

    @PotomacCyclist 90689 wrote:

    Jack Bauer and Martin Elmiger went out on a breakaway in Stage 15. Not too unusual. But they managed to lead the peloton for 220 kilometers (137 miles), nearly the entire length of the stage. Elmiger got swept up by the sprinters in the last kilometer, but Bauer continued to ride ahead. But he too was caught, just 30 meters from the finish. He would have been the first cyclist from New Zealand to win a stage at the Tour de France. Amazing but heartbreaking finish.

    I was pulling hard for Bauer. I generally have a little bit of a soft spot for Garmin as a team, and I like NZ, and I generally like it when breakaways succeed. Oh so close…

    As a side note, wonder if Jack Bauer has ever worn bib number 24? ;)

    #1006304
    DaveK
    Participant

    @cyclingfool 90705 wrote:

    Teah, texting while riding the TdF is pretty dumb. But I like that he rocks the beard! I listen to a ITV Tour podcast for additional interviews and analysis post-stage, and they, among other things, noted that it was funny that he rocks the beard while wearing an aero helmet. Wonder if he tested the relative aerodynamic effects of beard vs. no beard? :D

    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkmCLOjk2h8[/video]

    #1006308
    Powerful Pete
    Participant

    Now that is important bike-related research.

    #1006370
    cyclingfool
    Participant

    @DaveK 90706 wrote:

    [video]www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkmCLOjk2h8[/video]

    Dammit. This means I can’t blame my slow riding pace on my beard! 😡

    #1006372
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    They also discovered this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZnrE17Jg3I

    According to their tests on six athletes (cyclists and triathletes), the average time saving was about a minute over a 40K time trial, just from shaving one’s legs. The amount of time saved depends a great deal on where that person stands on the Chewbacca scale. (Yes, it’s exactly what you think it is, a “hairiness” scale.)

    It started off with pro triathlete Jesse Thomas heading to the Specialized Win Tunnel (no “d”) for a day of testing various components, gear, outfits and body positioning, to discover the most aerodynamic choices. The disc cover had a similar aerodynamic profile as a disc wheel. The smaller aero helmet was better than the long aero helmet in crosswinds. A sleeved suit was faster than a sleeveless suit. Then Thomas said he had to get pictures for sponsors, but forgot to shave his legs that morning. He would have to shave his legs (which rank very high on the Chewbacca scale, 9 out of 10) anyway, so why not test the difference between hairy legs and shaved legs in the wind tunnel. He said this partly as a joke and partly for fun, because people have often wondered if there is any real aerodynamic benefit to shaving one’s legs for a bike race. Many joke about it and make up outrageous and unbelievable claims, just to get some laughs. This time, they would study it scientifically.

    [from Jesse Thomas’s recent article at the Triathlete/Competitor website]

    http://triathlon.competitor.com/2014/07/photos/secrets-wind-tunnel_102363#iL0iZErPzecXHZxw.99

    All the previous tests were performed in 60-second chunks: The wind would start, then a countdown, then 60 seconds of data holding your position, then the wind stops and you’re done. Every once in a while Mark and Chris would run two or three 60-second tests in a row, just to make sure the data was consistent.

    So I got on the bike, the wind fired up, the countdown began and 60 seconds went by. But instead of the wind stopping, it kept going. Then another countdown, and another 60-second test. Then another, and another, and another, and another. Six 60-second tests went by; I wondered what the hell Mark was doing. Is he playing a trick on me? I’m starting to get tired, and it’s cold in the wind tunnel in January!

    Finally the wind stops; I hop off the bike and enter the control room. The mood is kind of creepy, the exact opposite of our ’80s party just a few minutes ago. Everyone is silent and I see Mark staring blankly at the computer screen. Eventually, I say “Ha, that was fun. What did we discover? One watt? Two watts?”

    Mark doesn’t even look at me. He just stares into the screen and says, “No. It’s impossible. It can’t be.” I feel like Marty McFly in “Back to the Future” witnessing Dr. Emmett Brown’s “1.21 gigawatts” tirade. Eventually I say, “Mark, what’s the deal? Did it do anything? You’re kind of creeping me out, dude.”

    Finally he looks up from his computer screen and says with absolute conviction, “15 watts.”

    I just start laughing, “That’s funny. Haha. Yep. I’m a hairy dude. I get it. But seriously, what happened?”

    “Seriously. It was 15 watts faster. I can’t explain it. I can’t believe it. That’s why I ran so many samples. But that’s what it’s saying—15 watts for your shaved legs.”

    In the case that this test was some kind of miscalculation or my legs are just freakishly hairy, we waited to tell the story until Mark and Chris had some time to corroborate the data. As it turns out, Mark has now tested five other individuals and seen drag savings of anywhere from 7 to 13 watts depending on where they rank on the 10-point “Chewbacca Scale” he created (seriously). Since the other riders scored only 5 to 8 on the Chew-scale (I was the only 9), a slightly lower drag reduction was expected. Yes, my legs are freakishly hairy, but the calculations were correct.

    So there you have it—the secrets of my day at the wind tunnel. I saved 2–3 watts on my helmet and wheels, 5 watts with my arm position, 8 watts with my new kit. But the big winner was the 15 watts I saved by clear-cutting the forest off my lower legs.

    #1006386
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    Longest stage of this year’s Tour today. Sounds brutal: 147 miles with some mountain climbs and an HC climb near the end of the stage. Cruel and unusual punishment?

    #1006406
    cyclingfool
    Participant

    @PotomacCyclist 90791 wrote:

    Longest stage of this year’s Tour today. Sounds brutal: 147 miles with some mountain climbs and an HC climb near the end of the stage. Cruel and unusual punishment?

    Given that it’s followed by the mountain stages of the Pyrenees I’d say so. Finally a day for a breakaway with only small climbs before the HC at the end, a descent all the way to the finish, and a peloton thinking more about conserving energy for GC battles over the next couple days in the bigger stages of the Pyrenees? Or perhaps a day for a GC shakeup with a well-timed attack on the last climb? Should be fun to watch.

    #1006453
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    Programming note: NBCSN will show tomorrow’s stage live with repeats throughout the day. However, there will be no primetime broadcast. They are showing soccer during the evening. The late TDF broadcast won’t start until 1 am.

    Tomorrow’s schedule:
    6-8 am, Repeat of Stage 16 (today’s stage)
    8 am-12 noon, Live coverage of Stage 17
    12-2:30 pm, Repeat of Stage 17
    3-5 pm, Repeat of Stage 17

    1-3 am, Repeat of Stage 17

    #1006457
    PotomacCyclist
    Participant

    Breaking news:

Viewing 15 posts - 76 through 90 (of 122 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.