L Street Bike Lanes
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November 5, 2012 at 6:01 pm #954897
Terpfan
Participant@Valerie 35143 wrote:
They should also put in “Wrong Way” signs facing bicycle traffic going West, and arrows pointing East. I’ve seen several cyclists going West in the L Street cycle track, and that’s just a recipe for disaster. As if the merge areas weren’t bad enough…
Funny enough, I would have felt safer going west bound rather than east bound as it least I could see the drivers who don’t understand the new merge pattern.
November 5, 2012 at 6:25 pm #954900ShawnoftheDread
Participant@Terpfan 35144 wrote:
I just rode it from 20th to 15th (yes if anyone saw me, I had on a green suit–no sense changing for such a short ride).
This green suit?
http://images.canadianlisted.com/nlarge/green-man-suit-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-we-carry-all-sizes_5195581.jpgNovember 5, 2012 at 7:22 pm #954905jrenaut
ParticipantI just took the L St lane a few minutes ago. I like it a lot. The new pavement is a welcome change from before. And they are painting little men on bikes as we speak (Blocking the lane, in fact, but I’ll give them a pass). The green mixing zones will take some getting used to, and they’re going to have to step up enforcement of left turns from the center lane, as well as parking. The worst offender was the USPS truck, who knows he can’t get a ticket AND that trying to complain to his boss is completely impossible.
But once people get used to this, i think it could be a net improvement for ALL traffic. Having dedicated turn lanes make it clearer which roads are one way to the left.
November 5, 2012 at 7:34 pm #954908Terpfan
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 35148 wrote:
This green suit?
http://images.canadianlisted.com/nlarge/green-man-suit-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-we-carry-all-sizes_5195581.jpgI wish! It would make for a much more entertaining ride home, particularly by the White House. I’ll just start rambling on about random things, “Blue 28 Cloud Chop Equal!” That and Good Morning Man at McPherson Square would have a riot with it: “Gooooooooooooddddddddd Morninnnnnnning Greennnnnn Man!”
November 7, 2012 at 7:40 pm #955109Terpfan
ParticipantLast night I observed a silver Mercedes driving down the L St bike lane. Not the part you pull into for the turn lane, but literally coming from the turn lane on the 16 to 15th St block and continuing down all the way to 14th St in the bike lane before turning left. The driver seemed to see it as an access lane. This of course confused another driver who tried to turn left from two lanes into the road. Thankfully there were no cyclists on it at that point.
So the confusion is still there and I really think the signage isn’t adequate given the plethora of other signs dotting the road. At the beginning of the block they should probably move a plastic bollard in perpendicularly (one would be sufficient) to indicate that this is not a lane. Or consider some sort of new sign that makes it more obvious.
At this point I decided it was interesting to walk up L and observe for a minute or two. The second large problem I observed is one we’re familiar with in intersections already: blocking the box. The difference being that going around the vehicle is fairly hazardous in rush hour times because you either have to go left risking a hook from cars turning left or around the car into traffic which now expects you to be in the bike lane. Compounding matters is that the person blocking the bike lane isn’t looking backward for bicyclists, they’re only looking at the car in front of them knowing that other cars won’t be approaching from their left (UNLESS of course it’s the idiot mercedes driver, which they should worry about).
Anyway, it may be worth taking some photos/video to show to DDOT as an explanation of these problems so they recognize potential simplistic ways to fix it. For instance, riding in I noticed some idiot had parked knocking over one of the bollards and I was tempted to move it half a block to run just a hard perpendicular indicating cars can’t drive down the bike lane. Wish I taken photos last night!
November 8, 2012 at 5:07 pm #955179Valerie
ParticipantDDOT tweeted this, asking people to print them out and give them out to cyclists & drivers: http://www.moneycrashers.com/best-time-of-year-buy-large-appliances/
November 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm #955181ShawnoftheDread
ParticipantBanhammer needed on “Valerie.”
November 8, 2012 at 5:21 pm #955182Bilsko
ParticipantAlso, Shane Farthing just tweeted that DDOT is going to install flex-bollards at the beginning of each block to help keep drivers out of the cycletrack except for garage turns and mixing zone turns at the end of the block. Hopefully soon
November 8, 2012 at 5:23 pm #955185Bilsko
Participant@ShawnoftheDread 35447 wrote:
Banhammer needed on “Valerie.”
Hold on, I think its just a case of wrong Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V. Valerie’s other posts are fine. And I think Valerie was out riding on the #stoputurnsonPenn ride (new rider, showed me a freshly cleaned cassette?)
November 8, 2012 at 5:29 pm #955186ShawnoftheDread
Participant@Bilsko 35451 wrote:
Hold on, I think its just a case of wrong Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V. Valerie’s other posts are fine. And I think Valerie was out riding on the #stoputurnsonPenn ride (new rider, showed me a freshly cleaned cassette?)
Sorry, I guess I was too quick to be judgy. I haven’t noticed Valerie before.
November 8, 2012 at 5:34 pm #955188ronwalf
Participant@Bilsko 35451 wrote:
Hold on, I think its just a case of wrong Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V. Valerie’s other posts are fine. And I think Valerie was out riding on the #stoputurnsonPenn ride (new rider, showed me a freshly cleaned cassette?)
Maybe this is the right link?
http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Bicycles%20and%20Pedestrians/Bicycles/Bike%20Lanes/L_St_ProtectedBikeLane.pdfNovember 8, 2012 at 5:36 pm #955189Bilsko
Participant@ronwalf 35454 wrote:
Maybe this is the right link?
http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Bicycles%20and%20Pedestrians/Bicycles/Bike%20Lanes/L_St_ProtectedBikeLane.pdfThat’s the one – its shown up on one or another of the two L St Cycletrack threads, already, along with Twitter and elsewhere – but good to post it.
Hopefully the new flex-bollards at the beginning of the block will obviate some of the need for the flyers.
November 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm #955190ShawnoftheDread
Participant@ronwalf 35454 wrote:
Maybe this is the right link?
http://ddot.dc.gov/DC/DDOT/Publication%20Files/On%20Your%20Street/Bicycles%20and%20Pedestrians/Bicycles/Bike%20Lanes/L_St_ProtectedBikeLane.pdfThanks, ronwalf. Sorry, Valerie.
November 8, 2012 at 6:21 pm #955198jnva
ParticipantBollards at the beginning of the block will help – that’s a great idea. I have had to move out of the lane every day to avoid a car or truck parked in the bike lane. Drivers still seem to be confused about using the mixing zones also, I just expect to get left hooked at every intersection for now. Here is a photo from this morning – both the taxi and the red car made a left turn from the “middle ” lane. Red car almost hit me.
[ATTACH]2033[/ATTACH]November 8, 2012 at 6:27 pm #955199Valerie
Participant@Bilsko 35451 wrote:
Hold on, I think its just a case of wrong Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V. Valerie’s other posts are fine. And I think Valerie was out riding on the #stoputurnsonPenn ride (new rider, showed me a freshly cleaned cassette?)
Hahahaha Yes, it was the wrong Ctrl-V! That was a link I was supposed to send my mom about when to buy a fridge! Thanks for standing up for me
Yes, that’s me you met on Penn
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