June 2017 Road & Trail Conditions

[ursus]

@DrP 161302 wrote:

I would guess that is because they are planning on re-doing the whole corner later this year. See http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?11661-Upcoming-Custis-Detours-in-Rosslyn&p=156273#post156273

I hope so. IMO, they (and it probably is a different “they”) did a great job between that section and Trollheim by the TRI. The only problem is that I just don’t trust the cars to stop where the path crosses between the two sections of the parking lot. OTOH removing the two 90-degree corners is an immense improvement.

Edit: For only about the fourth time in 147 posts I remembered to answer the anti-robot question before posting. (I belong to another forum where I post a lot more often that uses the same software but hasn’t implemented that robot test, so I just forget. It would be entertaining if those questions changed every once in a while. )

[CaseyKane50]

There is a detour on the Mount Vernon Trail just before you go under the Woodrow Wilson Bridge headed towards Royal Street. The detour is expected to be in place until June 23. While the detour is paved, it is currently not well signed, nor is it very safe. NPS has been notified and is reaching out to the contractor to address. Extreme care should be taken as the narrow detour is shared by cyclists and pedestrians going in both directions.

The detour routes you off the MVT under the Wilson Bridge for a short distance. You can still access Royal Street.
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Headed east down the ramp, paralleling the Woodrow Wilson Bridge
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Headed west from Royal Street

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[Emm]

@CaseyKane50 161557 wrote:

There is a detour on the Mount Vernon Trail just before you go under the Woodrow Wilson Bridge headed towards Royal Street. The detour is expected to be in place until June 23. While the detour is paved, it is currently not well signed, nor is it very safe. NPS has been notified and is reaching out to the contractor to address. Extreme care should be taken as the narrow detour is shared by cyclists and pedestrians going in both directions.

I rode this last night–I agree you need to go VERY slow since there are some tight turns with bad sight lines, and it’s very narrow. Plus you need to be VERY conscious of people walking their dogs and not paying attention to anything since that’s a daily occurrence at Jones Point Park–I usually have to call my passes 2-3 times before people with their dogs realize I’m there and get their dogs to stop blocking both lanes of the trail. The detour is going to make this a fun few weeks

Especially for those coming down the hill and planning to take Lee or Union Streets, it’s going to be annoying since you’ll pretty much loose all your momentum from going downhill.

[Brett L.]

I’m very surprised to see that they’re allowing general public access that close (literally touching) heavy construction equipment. That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen……

[Judd]

Casey or Emm – Do you know what work is being performed? Looks like a crane, nothing is jumping out as something that would be worked on that side of the trail.

[Emm]

@Judd 161571 wrote:

Casey or Emm – Do you know what work is being performed? Looks like a crane, nothing is jumping out as something that would be worked on that side of the trail.

No idea. But they have these big tubes attached to a generator like thingy that go down to a what appears to be a dock, or some other wooded area. It’s really weird. I’ll ask tomorrow if I see them working and no one knows by then.

[anomad]

They had pumps set up there running for a couple days before the crane showed up. I’ll ask the workers next time I roll through.

I thought they could have done a lot worse with the detour, signs, cones, little plastic barriers all seemed to be well placed.

[CaseyKane50]

@Judd 161571 wrote:

Casey or Emm – Do you know what work is being performed? Looks like a crane, nothing is jumping out as something that would be worked on that side of the trail.

Contractor is working on one of the Combined Sewer Outlets.

[Judd]

@CaseyKane50 161576 wrote:

Contractor is working on one of the Combined Sewer Outlets.

I hope they’re making it a non-combined sewer outlet.

[CaseyKane50]

@Judd 161580 wrote:

I hope they’re making it a non-combined sewer outlet.

Patience, the fix to the Combined Sewer Outflow problem is years and many dollars away. I think this is maintenance work.

[lordofthemark]

@Judd 161580 wrote:

I hope they’re making it a non-combined sewer outlet.

Technically, IIUC, they are never making any of the four into non-combined sewer outlets, as in fully separating waste water from storm water. That would involve entire parallel systems, and retrofitting is too expensive. What they will do (as DC is doing) is add storage tanks/pipes that will hold enough of the combined stuff, after storms, that it can all be treated without a surge that overwhelms treatment capacity.

[Judd]

@lordofthemark 161584 wrote:

Technically, IIUC, they are never making any of the four into non-combined sewer outlets, as in fully separating waste water from storm water. That would involve entire parallel systems, and retrofitting is too expensive. What they will do (as DC is doing) is add storage tanks/pipes that will hold enough of the combined stuff, after storms, that it can all be treated without a surge that overwhelms treatment capacity.

Sweet. I’m awaiting Bobco to announce the “Let’s bike the Alexandria underground poo tunnel” ride in his continuing Let’s Bike Some Piece of Infrastructure Rides.

I’ve lived mostly in places that were established a little bit later in history that they had segregated storm sewers and sanitary sewers so living some place where raw sewage ends up in the river bums me out big time and I shudder every time I see someone paddle boarding in the Potomac.

[huskerdont]

@Judd 161585 wrote:

Sweet. I’m awaiting Bobco to announce the “Let’s bike the Alexandria underground poo tunnel” ride in his continuing Let’s Bike Some Piece of Infrastructure Rides.

I’ve lived mostly in places that were established a little bit later in history that they had segregated storm sewers and sanitary sewers so living some place where raw sewage ends up in the river bums me out big time and I shudder every time I see someone paddle boarding in the Potomac.

I think combined sewer overflow is mostly an issue with heavy rains. Of course, after heavy rains is usually when the best paddling is.

[Boomer Cycles]

ALERT: Arlington County seems to be running a campaign to catch cyclists running through the 4 way stop intersection of North Van Buren St and 19th St N, between the WOD and Benjamin Banneker Park, near the East Falls Church Metro station. @SaraBee got ticketed there last week. I saw the patrol there this morning around 0900 am.

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[peterw_diy]

@lordofthemark 161584 wrote:

What they will do (as DC is doing) is add storage tanks/pipes that will hold enough of the combined stuff, after storms, that it can all be treated without a surge that overwhelms treatment capacity.

Do you know how much increase in demand they’re designing for? Council keeps approving big residential and hotel development in the combined sewer area and I imagine climate change will likely increase the volume of storm water peaks…

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